You non-christians are so judgmental. It is a big world and and you should consider that maybe there are some things out there that you don't know about. I realize it is easier to put people down than it is to dig for the truth. But maybe you should try to find out the truth, you might learn something.
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The issue isn't what the "truth" is. Neither fundamentalists nor anyone else actually knows what the "truth" is. The issue is that fundamentalists believe they alone know the truth and want to push that into our laws and our schools. The solution is simple: keep your religious beliefs in your homes and churches. Stop trying to push school prayer and creationism. Stop trying to shove the Ten Commandments into non-believers' faces. Stop trying to tell us how God thinks homosexuality is an abomination because it says so in the Bible - not everyone believes that a book written by some bronze age Arab goat herder is the word of God. In short, keep your beliefs to yourself and get out of everyone else' faces.
Yeah there could actually be a part of the universe where God exists.
And there's evidence for him.
Of course, it's not THIS part of the universe, so I really don't care. Also, that means it's not your God.
So... no.
". I realize it is easier to put people down than it is to dig for the truth."
Which might explain a few things....
"But maybe you should try to find out the truth, you might learn something."
Which I agree with!
But Christians are equally as judgemental if not worse.
I wholeheartedly agree. Truth is never ashamed by honest search and inquiry.
Although in your case, I doubt the truth you discover will necessarily be the one you set out to find...
"I realize it is easier to put people down than it is to dig for the truth."
Exactly. Scientists dig for the truth. Guess what they found? Fossils and rocks. Fossils millions of years old, and rocks billions of years old.
Now, figure out which side of that equation you're on. Hint: You're on the side that's just putting people down. Maybe YOU should try digging for the truth, or at least listening to the people who have actually done so.
~David D.G.
Stop. Just stop!
The most judgemental people I know are fundamentalist Christians. They cannot mind their own business and are forever telling the rest of us that we are destined for some imagined Lake of Fire, whilst they are for an imagined Rapture.
So not only to fundies judge others, they condemn them as well.
So, it the Fundies who
- judge
- condemn
- are stupidly convinced only they are right
- consider there are things out there on the basis of no evidence
- endlessly put down others (including other Christians)
- have totally closed minds as to where and what truth might be
- have minds so closed they are incapable of learning anything
Ok, some truth. The world isn't a flat disc, bats are not birds, insects have more than 4 legs, gravity does exist, the earth rotates around the sun, and we aren't the center of the universe. Gonna stop now, or would end up with a novel.
A secondary comment:
Pilate asked Jesus what was Truth.
Jesus did not reply.
This opens the matter to interpretation. But there is nothing to say that my interpretation is the wrong one, or that the Fundies' interpretation is the right one.
As one of a much loved duo might have said: 'Another fine mess...'
And that's the level of Eric's farrago.
It is a big world and and you should consider that maybe there are some things out there that you don't know about.
Are you sure this is the argument you want to go with? Because a) secular science reckons the universe to be billions of years old and to contain billions of galaxies each containing billions of stars, whereas Christianity reckoned it to be only six thousand years and, until very recently, that the planet earth was the only thing going and the stars were mere points of light, b) Christianity, and just about every other religion, hold it to be a virtue to believe in their shit without going looking for evidence to confirm it anyway, and c) most religions, Christianity included, also tend to insist that they already have all the answers, or at least all the ones of any value.
As an atheist I admit there are things I don't understand.
Why I should give ten per cent of my earnings to a total idiot in exchange for him reading me the edited highlights of a bronze-age shepherd's campfire tales every Sunday is high amongst them.
I don't just consider that there are things out there that I don't know about, I fully accept that there are things out there that I don't know about and I am unashamed to admit that. If we knew everything about everything, we wouldn't have scientists. These are the guys who "try to find out the truth". That's their job.
"It is a big world and and you should consider that maybe there are some things out there that you don't know about."
If you say so. I don't know how the universe came into existence. I don't know how life began on Earth. I'm pretty sure the sky daddy didn't just snap his invisible fingers and make it happen.
There is a lot of stuff we don't know, but none of that can be explained using three letters, G, O and D.
Bronze age mythology does not give answers to anything in real life, the bible is a total joke. A 2000+ year old collection of goat herder and camel driver scifi stories.
The Greater Metropolitan Area of London was leveled today after Eric made the comment "You non-christians are so judgmental." .
Eric made the mistake of uttering the comment in irony meter factory area of Wandsworth. The resulting explosion was heard as far away as Siberia.
Economic experts are forecasting that it will be months or maybe even years before irony meters are back in production again.
"...But maybe you should try to find out the truth, you might learn something."
I did, indeed. I studied the history of the Bible and Logic in college.
I've been an atheist ever since.
P.S. I agree with redfergus; this IS fundie personified.
There are countless things out there that I don't know about. However, I do not believe that "Goddidit" is the answer to any of them.
Oh, and you owe me a new irony meter.
Well, let's see,
- I have talked with gay people, and found that they are not the wild-eyed, child raping hedonists of fundamentalist lore.
- I have researched evolution and found that it is not the speculative fantasy that fundamentalists try and portray it as.
- I have read the bible and found that it does not support rampant capitalism nor does it forbid abortion.
- I have interacted with "men of god" and found most of them to be no wiser and no more ethical than anyone else.
I have dug for the truth Eric. This is what I learned. What have you learned?
We're the judgemental ones? WE?
"Go with those who seek the truth, run away from those who say they've found it."
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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