[[citing the Kaiser study on the efficacy of virginity pledges (http://www.kaisernetwork.org/daily_reports/rep_index.cfm?DR_ID=22603 )
I just have to admit that I think those statistics are at least a little bit wrong. For instance, there is me, and then I can think of at least a dozen or so friends who won't have sex until marriage, and then at least a dozen or so friends who didn't have sex until they got married. Maybe I just hang out with a really obscure group of people? Maybe I happen to be friends with everybody who isn't one of those percent! Scary .
Probably closer to 90% kids who have premarital sex these days. At my school, probably more like 25%, but that's only because we're a really smart private school.
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You tell yourself that now, but on your wedding night as you orgasm for the first time, you'll think, "WTF, why wasn't I doing this before now?!?!"
All the way
They're learning to blow
-Words and Music by Frank Zappa
So? When corrected for the personality type who would sign such a pledge it probably shows that such pledges are entirely worthless.
One of my regrets from my high school days is that I didn't have more of the sex that was availble to me. The sex I did partake in doesn't seem to have caused any ill effects for any of the parties involved. Kiddies, to misquote Nancy Reagan, "Just say Yes."
I had no idea what my high school classmates and church friends were doing at the time, either. As I later found out, the rallying cry of "sex, drugs, and rock 'n' roll" wasn't just empty talk -- and the rock 'n' roll was optional.
Okay so that's twenty four people. Out of the millions who did pledge millions still had premarital sex. Consider yourself part of the 12% who kept the pledge.
And this is still assuming your friends were truthful to you.
Kind of mediocre, if you ask me. That is, of course, until he talks about only 25% of the students at his school having premarital sex. It's not the smart kids that wind up not having sex. It's usually the remarkably stupid ones.
Well it's not like you grow a big red 'A' on your forhead if you have premarital sex, so who knows what your friends are doing.
Sad fact.
Know 10 boys? Odds are ones been been sexually molested by someone. May be higher since you're in a Catholic school.
Also, she's only 16, wait until she's 18 and still hasn't found Mr. Right.
Ya know, back in the 50s and early 60s, we didn't have sex in high school. If you asked ANY high school girl back then if she was a virgin, she would answer a wide-eyed, innocent-looking "yes!"
The society in which we lived, which probably was not much different from the closed, judgmental society of a private religious school, was such that it was preferable to lie about your sexual activity status than to be truthful about it. And so, in a time when every teenaged girl in America would tell you she was a virgin, the rate of teenage pregnancies was the highest of the entire 20th century! (1957 was the peak year)
Of course all of the kids you know are virgins and will remain so until they marry. Just like back in MY day...
Darling, I think that you're too naive to think that they're going to tell you the truth about their sex lives(rule, many people who do have premarital sex say that they don't and many people who brag about it more often than not don't get any). Think globally and learn the capital rule. Anecdote doesn't mean data.
This poor thing is naive. To begin with, as one of the guys here commented, you can't tell if people are having sex or not. Nobody turns into pink for having sex or something like that and more often than not, people lie about that(either when they brag, and they actually don't get any or as many as they claim to or they say they don't and they suffer from Britney Spear's syndrome).
Hate to tell you Bryce, but no matter school you go to one statistic always remains the same. All teenagers lie about their sex lives and make themselves seem more promiscuous or more virginal, dependent on what audience they are playing too.
Maybe I happen to be friends with everybody who isn't one of those percent! Scary.
Maybe you reject any of your friends who becomes one of those percent, so that they don't count. Scary.
I did not pledge to remain a virgin, or pledge to have sex, at any time in my life. In fact, I made no predetermined decision about it at all.
But, I went to public school, instead of a really smart private school. So, I guess that is where it all went wrong.
It's ok brycelaliberte, its not actually sex if I don't cum inside you. Also did you know that coke cola is a contraceptive if used as a douche?
I dated a catholic girl in highschool. She was "saving herself" for marriage so she only wanted oral or anal.
The saying is "As pure as the driven snow", right? ;)
Since people marry between 25-40 years, if they marry at all, and lose their virginity at 16 on average, I think that her world is not representative of the failure of those pledges.
Anecdotical evidence..............well, it never works. By the way, how do you know that they didn´t, aren´t and won´t have sex?. Any Big Brother mechanism?
"You tell yourself that now, but on your wedding night as you orgasm for the first time, you'll think, "WTF, why wasn't I doing this before now?!?!""
You do know that teenagers in America is a group of hundreds of thousands of people, right? That you know of 12 people who waited until marriage is pretty irrelevant. 12 percent of, say, 300 000 is 36 000. Btw, these twelve people, are they girls or boys, or a mixture?
Wait, you said "at my school ... we are". So, you're not married yet? How the heck do you know NOW that you'll never have premarital sex? You can only KNOW that after you have gotten married.
You must mean "smart" in the "dress and appearance" sense, or you're one of the denser students there...
What will you do if you and your husband/wife are not compatible in bed?
Confused?
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