Ah, lovely. Let's go over this...
If what Israel is doing is a genocide, it's gotta be the slowest and most incompetent genocide ever (other than the genocide of the White Master Race - thanks, Bast!). You know, Mr. Commissar, 'genocide' is a word that has a meaning, one that isn't just "Big crime, worst crime, they're terrible people, believe me! SAD!". Look up the term's meaning, genius, then tell me what it is exactly that the Israelis are doing that constitutes a genocide, and why.
Not every massacre has to be a genocide. Kindly stop devaluing the term.
@Commissar
Since all Israeli adult citizens are part of the military in one way or another
Wrong already. The actual truth is that all Israeli citizens who:
a) became citizens at a young enough age
AND
b) are Jewish, Druze or Arab/Palestinian Bedouin
... need to go through obligatory military service in some fashion for a couple of years. This is no different from what many other countries have, except in that women are also drafted (albeit for a shorter period and typically not for combat roles).
After their obligatory period is over (often without seeing any sort of combat), the vast majority of Israelis leave the IDF and go live regular civilian lives.
There is a theoretical eligibility for being called up for reservist duty until the age of 40 (unless exempt) of people who previously went through mandatory conscription, but this is done only occasionally. And guess what - being an (occasional) reservist still doesn't make them a combat soldier and valid military target at any given moment. So no, you can't just shoot them.
@Commissar
Since all Israeli adult citizens are part of the military in one way or another, they forfeit the protection of Geneva and are fair game to Hamas
LOL
And under what sections of the Geneva Conventions does that follow? I'd say that it's a particularly dark and dank section of your anal cavity, my dear Commissar.
@Commissar
to Hamas which is a Government that was elected, mind you, to power and thus can't be labeled an Insurgent Group.
Well, I can tell you that getting elected doesn't magically protect a group from being officially considered terrorist by a country or a group of countries. Hezbollah is another excellent example of this.
As for Hamas winning elections, yes, they won one - in 2006. Their mandate passed a long, long time ago (2010), meaning that their rule has been illegitimate for almost a decade now. That said, Fatah and the rest of the PLO - including Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, whose term expired in 2009 yet he remains president - don't have a legitimate mandate either, for the same reason.
@Commissar
Also since Israel deliberately targets civilians, even those under UN protection, with air and artillery strikes, its civilians are also fair game to rocket and suicide bomber strikes which are no different.
That is not how international law works. At all.
Also, you do realize that this logic works both ways, right? That according to your own reasoning Israelis can justify deliberate targeting of civilians by the fact that Palestinians attack Israeli civilians in such a way?
Do you think about what you say at all, or do you just immediately excrete from your mouth (or keyboard) whatever dumb idea comes to your sorry excuse of a mind?
I won't get into the difference between indiscriminate targeting, deliberate targeting and inadequate care not to hit civilians. They are not the same things, you see. I also won't get into how it's often not at all simple to tell what is going on in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict due to both sides (if we can even speak of there being just two sides...) using tremendous amounts of omissions, propaganda and misdirections. What's worse, even human rights organizations are often compromised to a certain extent.
I would advise against quick judgements in any case.
@Commissar
I should also point out that Hamas despises Al-Qaeda and has killed and captured hundreds of them over the years.
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I will concede that Hamas has at times fought against other Islamist groups - typically inside the Gaza Strip, where they can pose a threat to Hamas and its rule. However, Hamas has also helped such groups in the Sinai peninsula, so perhaps you should also take that into account before you label them some sort of terror-fighting heroes.
@Commissar
The only way out of this mess, is to remove the Israelis from the region and give it back to the Palestinians who still have the right of return...
So, genocide and ethnic cleansing suddenly aren't a bad and undesirable thing when it comes to the Israelis being the target?
If it's genocide you want, by way of thinking it justified because the Israelis are allegedly doing one... think about the following:
You don't see people saying Germans should have been slaughtered post-WW2 for what the Nazis did. Not even Jews say that in any even slightly significant number. That would be insane, right?
Turkey doesn't quite recognize the Armenian genocide or some of their own ancestors' role in perpetrating it; indeed, mentioning it in Turkey is very inadvisable to this day. Yet we don't call for bloody revenge, now do we?
But, you may say, that was long ago. So, how about more recent ones?
1995, Bosnian Serb forces massacred over 8.000 Bosniak civilian men after taking the town of Srebrenica. The International Court of Justice ruled it to be a genocidal act. The Bosnian Serb authorities deny the genocide claim to this day. Does anyone publicly call for revenge? No, and certainly not anyone in the West.
More recently, the Darfur genocide. Where is the outrage? Generally, everyone just kinda shrugged, maybe was appalled for a bit, then forgot about the whole thing. The Sudanese president and a few other guys got indicted by the International Criminal Court, nobody got arrested. Hardly anyone cares anymore, let alone calls for the overthrow of Sudan's regime and for Sudan (or at least the Darfur region) to be occupied.
Even more recently, the Rohingya genocide in Myanmar. So yeah, we were outraged, and called for Aung San Suu Kyi's nobel prize to be revoked. Yay. But did anyone of consequence seriously call for a military response to protect the Rohingyas and eventually return them to their homes, aided by force if necessary? Nah, of course not.
And the latter two examples definitely outmatch Israel's actions in the scope and speed of the horror.
But suddenly, when we're talking about Israel, and only when it's Israel, ethnic cleansing and regime change become acceptable.
@Commissar
...or decapitate the current Israeli Government, merge Gaza and West Bank into it and give it a true secular democratic government.
Cool. You know what? I'd like a secular democratic binational state where both Israeli Jews and Arabs/Palestinians would live in peace and harmony and sing kumbaya. I say that in all seriousness.
But tell me... how often does removing a democratically elected government and forcibly integrating warring territories and populations work out? Especially if you follow it up immediately with instituting a democratic system?
The Israeli-Palestinian conflict has been going on for a century. These people do not get along. Just what makes you think that they would suddenly change their minds if you told them they have to live in one big state?
What makes you think that Israelis would ever accept your coup and the loss of their nationhood?
What makes you think that Palestinians would ever want to not kick out the people that they generally see as monstrous invaders?
What makes you think that either people would want to accept living side by side with the enemies they think the worst of?
What makes you think that a binational state at this point in time would be a functional democracy, and not a conflict-generating paralyzed failed state like other post-conflict forcibly-reintegrated countries often are? (e.g. Bosnia and Herzegovina, Iraq)
It's people like this that make me very suspicious of folks who self-identify as anti-Zionist. Granted, many of them aren't like this... but too often, if you scratch a little under the surface, you find that either yes, they're an anti-Semite, or they hold some other extreme views that are cause for worry.
