If God says it's ok to kill people, then killing the people that God ordered to kill is not going against His holiness
Oh, and nowhere in the Bible does God allow rape.
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I think Moses and his men might disagree. Some one got the actual passage or what ever for that one?
Now then, as for the first line... it's never all right to slaugther people purely because they hold differnet opinions. Those kind of commands are the commands of a tyrant, not a benevolent entity.
The father has no right to kill the son.
Sure, that goes after you proof without a shred of doubt that god exists and that he really ordered you to do kill a person.
Incubusion:
NIV Numbers 31:15-18
"Have you allowed all the women to live?" he asked them. "They were the ones who followed Balaam's advice and were the means of turning the Israelites away from the LORD in what happened at Peor, so that a plague struck the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.
That's the problem with Morality from Authority, it defines the authority as moral, so even if it orders rape, murder, genocide, that's okay, because nothing it says can be considered immoral.
So, an acceptable defense for murder is "God" told me to do it? There is a problem with that, you know.
"It is of course always best to be led by god,
and have him personally whisper into your ear.
Only, when it is the devil talking he will tell you he is god,
for the devil is a crafty liar. So you never know
who is talking to you."
-- Franz Bibfeldt
As to the rape assertion, ICGE is obviously yet another Bible defender who hasn't bothered to read the Bible.
I don't recall any loopholes in the Ten Commandments, such as "Thou Shalt Not Kill Except For Those Whom I, Thy God, Tell Thou To Kill -- Then Goeth For It."
~David D.G.
Deuteronomy 22:28-29 (NIV translation) :
"If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay the girl's father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives."
Seems rape is only a no-no if a man's property interest in a woman is violated.
Well, it is. For a reason, God can´t say in one revelation "go kill" and send his only son and say the opposite, more if we think that it is THIS SECOND REVELATION the reason why we supposedly believe in God. And indeed they allow to rape women who have been the loot for war.
Every time a rape occurs, that's God allowing rape. Why? Because God is supposed to be omnipotent, and omniprescient. Therefore, God should be both aware of a rape that's about to occur and capable of stopping it. Therefore, if God never allowed rape, then there would be no rape at all. Ever. Either God is allowing rape, God isn't as powerful as you claim, or, most likely conclusion of all, God isn't really there.
Lot's daughters got their father drunk and seduced him, without a single word of protest from your god.
That's the part of the Sodom and Gomorrah myth that your lot always seems to forget.
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