Bag-of-Hammers #fundie

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[Bag-of-Hammers believes the New Testament should be taught in History classes.]

THere is far more credible evidence that proves the NT to be true than most other things they teach in History. Not teaching it as history submits to the idea that it might all be lies and fairytales is where the attitude towards the NT is born. As it is, we are a Nation of athiests, bowing to the unfounded ideas of atheism that the NT is not worthy of considerating as true testimony, giving more credance that there are multible truths, and having faith in the wisdom of people is moot, as there is no such thing as truth and rightousness. Only a world where whatever you want to believe is what the truth is, regardless of the facts. As it is we reinforce the people to share the same attitude Muhammad had towards the NT by not educating them the historical facts behind the making of the NT.

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old comment by LDM

Almost every mainstream Christian church offers Bible classes, most welcome non-members to those classes. Most cable companies have at least one christian channel in their line up. Bookstores and libraries everywhere have Bibles and bible study materials easily accessible to anyone who wants to study them. There are christian schools and colleges all over the place, many of them offer evening bible classes for adults. And most major colleges and universities do have religious studies courses, which include christianity.

Anyone can study the bible anytime they want. Requiring it is not going to make people believe it anymore than requiring The Scarlett Letter made people want to go around marking adulterers.

old comment by Doubting Thomas

"Not teaching it as history submits to the idea that it might all be lies and fairytales..."

Yeah, pretty much. That's why Christian mythology is not taught in any schools.

"As it is, we are a Nation of athiests..."

I wish.

"...the NT is not worthy of considerating as true testimony..."

I agree 100%. Stories written 70 years after the events supposedly happened are not eyewitness accounts.

"As it is we reinforce the people to share the same attitude Muhammad had towards the NT by not educating them the historical facts behind the making of the NT."

I would love to have everyone schooled on the actual facts behind the making of the NT. It would certainly turn a lot of people away from Christianity, and show again that the gospels are not eyewitness accounts.

old comment by Papabear

"THere is far more credible evidence that proves the NT to be true than most other things they teach in History."

Oh, do tell. I'm in the mood for a rippin' good story.

"Not teaching it as history submits to the idea that it might all be lies and fairytales is where the attitude towards the NT is born."

Come now, I don't say the NT is ALL lies and fairytales. I'm sure there was a guy named Jesus in that area at about that time.

"As it is, we are a Nation of athiests,"

But, doesn't the U.S. have a higher rate of belief in God than all (or almost all) other western countries?

"bowing to the unfounded ideas of atheism that the NT is not worthy of considerating as true testimony,"

Which "ideas of atheism" are unfounded?

The NT IS worth considering... and then rejecting.

"giving more credance that there are multible truths, and having faith in the wisdom of people is moot, as there is no such thing as truth and rightousness."

Darn, if only you could prove the major contentions of the NT, us atheists could accept it as truth.

"Only a world where whatever you want to believe is what the truth is, regardless of the facts."

Ha ha ha. Please, the irony is killing me.

"As it is we reinforce the people to share the same attitude Muhammad had towards the NT by not educating them the historical facts behind the making of the NT."

I think you may need one of the smart people to help you look up the words "fact" and "truth." Oh, and "reinforce," as well.

old comment by Mech610

Okay well, despite this idiot's zealotry, there is something to the idea of teaching children about religion in history classes. I'm not saying reading them prayers and making them into Christians or Jews or Muslims or what have you. I'm saying teaching them that religion, especially monotheistic religions had huge impacts on the history of western countries. Give the kids basic run downs on what each group believes and where the origins are in them.

I only say this because, as much as people don't like the idea of God or religion anymore, they are important parts of our history. Having a section of the history curriculum deal with the big boom of monotheism during the late Roman period and through the Middle Ages might give the kids some interesting perspective.

On the other hand, it could also open up a huge can of worms. But as long as Creationism isn't being taught as a science, I'm cool with the idea of talking about religions in school along side other philosophies.

old comment by Swede

Not teaching a religious text as history is in accordance with it being a religious text and not history. As it is, you're a nation of people who are free to adhere to whatever religion they want or none at all, bowing to the sold rules of reality, that the NT has been translated and retranslated and revised and changed and revised again, giving credence that it is indeed a religious text, meant to be interpreted. Having faith in the wisdom of people is wise, but you should still use critical thinking and common sense. There are many different kinds of truths, and neither has anything to do with religion.

Muhammad must have a rather benign attitude towards the NT, as much of the Koran is very similar to the Bible. Not educating yourself with the historical facts behind the making of the NT will make you trust it blindly.

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