I'll stick to the facts and logically so. Atheism is logically void of any meaning. Try reading Isaiah 28. It mentions atheist. They have a covenant with death but death will deceive them and fail them and break the covenant and every atheist will be raised up on the last day to face God at the great white throne judgment and they will have to give God and acooiunting for their life and what they chose to believe. Believe it or not!
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Actually, if He was any type of just god He would say, "I'm sorry for failing you, my son. Welcome to heaven."
Uhhh, ocb . Arguing from the Bible with atheists is totally useless. Since atheists by definition do not believe in God, would it not follow that we do not believe the Bible to be the word of God? Spout all the Babble verses you want. Pardon us if we ignore you.
I don't believe it. And I've read Isaiah 28, and it doesn't convince me of anything. That kind of thing only works when your target audience already believes, you know. All I've ever gotten from reading a Bible is that they badly needed a good editor, and they a lot of the copies kind of smell funny.
"They have a covenant with death but death will deceive them and fail them and break the covenant and every atheist will be raised up on the last day to face God at the great white throne judgment and they will have to give God and acooiunting for their life and what they chose to believe."
I tried reading Isiah 28, but it's kind of a vague, barely coherent mess and I couldn't bring myself to slog all the way through it to whichever specific passage you're referring to.
I choose not. Actually, if I come face to face with God after I die, HE had better have a good accounting for all this mess!
Could you arrange to have it videotaped for those of us who aren't there in time to enjoy the show live?
@ The Watcher:
Anonymous, if you'd care to read what I actually wrote instead of what you were evidently expecting to read, you'll notice that I did not make any accusations about the validity of the argument. All I did was to remark about the text being vague and bad at getting to the point (and it is bad at getting to the point. Most of it is unnecessary or repeated qualifiers and exclamations along the lines of "pay attention while I'm ranting at you!"). At most, I'd suggest my post could be construed as a request for a more specific reference, or for somebody else to quote the relevant text with comments.
If you apply logic, you can´t mention, sooner afterwards, a book as "proof" for your claims because LOGICALLY no sacred book is going to critisise the religion it supports.
Those are logical facts now? Right.JRR Tolkien's "The Silmarillion" adds colossal detail to the mythology of Middle Earth compared to his other books but, until I see a balrog on my lawn, it will remain mythology.
I may just have to save this quote and use it in future. Fantastic. *grin*
Issaih 28 a paraphrase:
“I'll stick to the facts and logically so.”
“Atheism is logically void of any meaning.”
“Try reading Isaiah 28.”
“and they will have to give God and acooiunting for their life and what they chose to believe. Believe it or not!”
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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