[A mother of an 8 year old boy is asking for advice on how to handle his smart mouth.]
There is always hot sauce....relating that to the "Hell" that is comming out of his mouth won't be tolerated.
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"There is always hot sauce...."
I'm pretty sure such things are no longer suggested by child development/rearing experts as they don't actually work.
"relating that to the "Hell" that is comming out of his mouth won't be tolerated."
I'm also pretty sure that mental abuse isn't going to work either.
How about you just tell her to pick up a book about raising kids from the bookstore that's not 50 years old?
One of my nieces used to drink hot sauce from the bottle if she could get to it at two, the other liked the "extra hot" salsas. Depending on your kid this idea is either child abuse or a reward.
Okay, I just need to let y'all know that I am absolutely NO relation to that bitch.
Also, "hot-saucing" is being recommended by fundie child-rearing "experts" right now. There's a whole long essay about it at ReligiousTolerance.org:
http://www.religioustolerance.org/spankin9.htm
By the way, the makers of both Tabasco and Texas Pete brands say to leave their stuff out of it. Which is smart, because they want kids today to buy it tomorrow!
Before everyone jumps all over her, isn't this just a little bit better than washing the kid's mouth out with soap? The same way that a slap across the butt with an open hand is much less severe than the old taking him out to the woodshed to beat the hell out of the unruly bastard with a wooden stick.
Resorting to abuse to "handle" a "smart mouth" reveals much about the parenting skills of religious nutbars. Children, by the time they are 8, have fully formed personalities that really don't change much, fundamentally.
I have noticed this weird thing that children that are raised in homes where the parents don't curse are less inclined to curse themselves. Just call me old fashioned.
But certainly a "GreenEyed<b>LADY</b>" wouldn't curse in front of her child! He must have heard it on tv...
SARCASMSRACASMSARCASM
There's a good chance that the fundie's kids are trying to be funny with the "smart mouths" and since the parents have no sense of humor the kids get punished.
These are people who don't like anyone who doesn't conform with their way of thinking and their kids had better not develop their own sense of self.
Fundies don't really want children, they want robots for Jesus.
If you, as an adult, have to resort to use of hot sauce or soap, you have lost as a parent and need help!
"How about you just tell her to pick up a book about raising kids from the bookstore that's not 50 years old?"
Hey, fifty years old is a good step up from two thousand years old.
..not to mention the liquid "Hell" that may come out of his other end and all over his Iron Man underoos after SCARRING the SHIT out of him with Jesus' loving flaming torture chamber mixed with too much tobbasco sauce.
I suggest using Texas Pete for this situation, seeing that "Hot" sauce is for pussies who cant stand the real heat.
If it isnt Tobbasco, it isnt hot!
@Elphada
Oh, I hope they do. Wasabi clears the sinuses and leaves no residual heat trail whatsoever. It's the "flash grenade" of hot condiments.
But it's probably too un-American for fundies.
@Mister Spak:
Bible camp.
Now, I might go against the grain here, but as I taught for a few years I can say punishment, real punishment, is seriously lacking in kids from gen Y on and it shows.
My circle of friends have a theory: we were each spanked once (or twice in one person's case) HARD and we learned respect for our parents and that was the end of punishments. One spanking.
Now, on the other hand, if your kid is 8 and hasn't figured out you're the boss yet... you seriously FAIL at being a parent and I am so glad he would never show up in any of my classes - both because I've given up teaching and because I taught engineering... you know, evolution of heat and metals.
She only says he's "smart mouthing" her, not cursing. The odds are he's tired of hearing Scripture from her as an explanation for why he can't do something he'd like to do. He doesn't react like a good little robot for Jesus and she sees this as an affront.
That'll really teach the kid ...
Where'd the child get a foul mouth at 8 from, Ma?
I might just be old, but my parents cursed pretty good back in the day. When I tried on my first "mother FUCKER" after stubbing a toe or something where I hurt myself on something, the folks just said, "Don't. Kids shouldn't say those words." For the most part just saying "No," and giving a solid reason for the no tended to work.
Maybe you should try actual parenting, Greenie.
No, this isn't better than using soap. Hot sauce contains spices that, if the child is allergic, could cause a severe reaction. It can also get in the child's eyes if they were to rub their mouth and try to wipe tears from their eyes or if their parent accidentally dropped some in their eye if the child was resisting. Hot sauce in the eyes can cause damage to the child's sight. Several people are rushed to the ER every year for getting hot pepper in their eyes.
IMHO, using soap isn't acceptable either. If it wouldn't be acceptable for me to cram a wadded up sock down my husband's throat to teach him a lesson, it shouldn't be acceptable for me to stick a bar of soap or hot sauce in my son's mouth just for swearing or being a smart mouth.
If the 8-year-old boy in question says something to you that qualifies as a curse, the Bible only gives you one option: You have to execute him. Sorry, but that's the price you pay for your eternal salvation!
How about treating him like an 8 year old boy instead of some hellish demon spawn?
Take away his allowance
1. Stop using "Hot Sauce", whatever that is.
5. Do not beat the living shit out of them.
Tere we go.
My mom used to put tabasco sauce on my tongue whenever I swore. Now, as an adult, I swear like a fucking sailor.
I'm pretty sure that the "put (insert unpleasant thing here) in mouth" method of child rearing is bullshit.
We actually had teacher in school that gave Cod liver oil for SWEARING. But that was with parents and OUR consent. It was actually one of the us, kids aged 9-10 who suggested it when we had discussion in class about what should be done to swearing in class O_o And I hihglight it: Everyone agreed with that arrangement and those who swore actually went to teacher themselves ask if they would get it now. And some asked to have it just to get to know how it tasted...
But using hot sauce? And referring to hell? For a "smart mouthed" kid? Makes me wonder what actually is smart mouthing in fundie family?
We had a case a couple of years ago down here in South Texas where a foster Mom of the fundie persuasion disciplined a four year old boy by making him drink a large glass of water laced with a liberal amount of Cajun spice mix, consisting mainly of Cheyanne pepper. Unfortunately, the child had a bad reaction to the concoction and due to the foster parents unwillingness to seek medical treatment immediately, the boy died. The foster Mom is now serving, and rightfully so, a life sentence but that hasn't stopped her fellow death cult members from creating a website that basically maintains that she was railroaded by the justice system because of her Christian beliefs. Sure, we laugh and make fun of these cretins but now and again we need to stop and reflect on the fact that these people are dangerous to themselves and others.
You're going to force-feed your kid hot sauce?
Jesus Fuck...when I was a kid and smarted off, I just got yelled at.
Um, Moondog, hot sauce hurts a hell of a lot more than soap, and is a choking hazard, as well as being a punishment that can leave burns or at least burn for quite awhile (speaking as someone with no spice tolerance). Not that I advocate soap as a punishment tool, but hot sauce is soap taken up a notch. It's actually considered child abuse in some states. The child development experts in GreenEyedLilo's link (http://www.religioustolerance.org/spankin9.htm ) were not impressed.
*nods* And for those of us with spice tolerance, it comes with age. Small children like McDonald's because their burgers are "plain"; it comes up over and over in market research into fast food places. Loving parents gently guide their children with spicy tastes and make sure to have milk or rice or something handy to dilute it. The hot sauce may not hurt an 8-year-old as bad as it might a toddler (and that is suggested by these "experts," too), but it will be disproportionate, unpleasant, and a waste of an opportunity to really teach.
@Lyssa the Fair: Well, I'm man enough to know when I've been proved wrong. I stand corrected. Didn't know it could do all that, although hot foods do make my eyes water and my nose run. It seems to run in my family.
Rapture Ready, your friendly and reliable source of good parenting tips. What normal 8 year old kid doesn't have a "smart" mouth, dearie? I presume that you mean smart mouth to mean practically anything that isn't part of your very narrow Xtian worldview.
I know what I'd like to do instead with the hot sauce....but I'll shut up now before I get into trouble.
“There is always hot sauce....”
“relating that to the "Hell" that is comming out of his mouth won't be tolerated.”
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