I find this thread interesting because I enjoy collecting various dinosaur teeth. I believe some of the dinosaurs that had sharp teeth always had them. Did you know there are several animals that live today that have very sharp teeth that don't eat meat? A fruit bat is just one common example. There probably are a few dinosaurs known for their sharp teeth that never ate meat in their life. There is a lot of assuming that goes on about dinosaurs. We assume just because they had sharp teeth they must have been meat eatters. Just to make my view clear I believe before the fall no animal, that includes dinosaurs, ate meat.
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Wow. A two second search reveals:
"Megabats are herbivorous. They eat fruits or suck nectar from flowers. Often the fruits are squashed, and only the fruit juice is consumed. The teeth are adapted to bite through hard fruit skins."
That's from Wikipedia's fruit bat article. Of course I didn't have to look it up because anyone who's ever seen fruit in a number of varieties knows that some have tough skins. Knowing this it's not hard to deduce that bats that eat fruit would probably keep their sharp teeth in order to get through the thick skinned fruits. Apparently this is all too much for fundies in general and Project86 in particular.
Why do fundies refuse to use the brain their deity supposedly gave them?
Project 86: There is a lot of assuming that goes on about dinosaurs.
followed closely by
Project 86: Just to make my view clear I believe before the fall no animal, that includes dinosaurs, ate meat
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Wouldn't that be an assumption on your part?
Teeth are not the only evidence available as to whether a dinosaur ate meat or plants. Body structure, the presence of grinding stones in the abdomen come to mind. Also, plant eaters are found in something like a 20 to 1 ratio in body mass when compared to meat eaters.
Plus, there were undoubtably omnivore dinos.
Before "the Fall" what did mosquitos and leeches eat? Maybe before "the Fall" mosquitos were just small mosques.
Before the last sentence, that post actually made sense, then the last sentence showed why this guy is a fundy, changing science to match his view.
I don't know all that much about dinosaurs, or fruit bats for that matter.
But saying it is possibl;e that the T. Rex ate fruit because the fruitbat has sharp teeth?
A bat would need sharp teeth to get trough the skin of the fruit as previously mentioned. Now, where does a 12 to 13 meter (in length) dinosaur need sharp teeth to crush a fruit? Wouldn't shere crushing force be enough? The skull was 1.5 meters long. So it would weigh quite a bit. I'd love to see an orange peel stand up to that kind of force.
And I repeat, I don't know all that much about either animal. The data on the dino comes from wikipedia.
They also know dinosaurs such as T. rex ate meat because they found the marks of T. rex teeth on the bones of other dinosaurs. It's called analysing evidence. Evidence is something concrete you can examine, like a fossil. The Bible is not evidence of anything but an overactive imagination.
The Fall never happened, so the rest of his argument in bullshit.
@NotMe: As it happens, T. rex had phenomenally strong jaws, even by the standards of giant theropods. Additionally, the teeth are huge, an extraordinarily deeply rooted.
The implication seems to be it ate big animals whole - bones and all. This is supported by the fact that coprolites (fossilized shit) associated with tyrannosaurs have been found to contain crushed hadrosaur bone.
I think it's safe to conclude that no tyrannosaur ever accidentally swallowed big chunks of the skeleton of a 2-ton animal while munching on fruits ...
Hey, if the Fall never happened, how come my left front paw is in a cast? (Cymbal crash.)
Actually, the joke doesn't work very well in Method Acting Maronan Mode, since I've never heard of lions tripping and falling hard enough to break paws. Maybe he fell off a cliff. I just didn't want to suggest that I *really* broke any major (or minor) bones.
Most of the Dino's with sharp teath also had serrated edged teath that in life were razor sharp, like a sharks teath are today. And of course the Velociraptor had teath pointing towards the back of the mouth , like most modern eel's to prevent prey from pulling out
A bat is, what, 4, 5 inches tall, at a generous estimation. To get through the skin of a fruit at that size, it's gonna either need wholly disproportionate jaw strength, or *gasp* really sharp teeth. Try to explain to me why a dinosaur many meters tall would need such sharp teeth to eat grasses and fruit, as opposed to the standard grinding teeth.
There IS a lot of assuming done about dinosaurs,,he's right,, kids, creationists, comic book,novel and movie writers, retards and even old ladies assume a lot
The people that study them as a career are ASSUMING nothing.
It's not the sharpness of the teeth that shows whether a species is herbivore, omnivore or carnivore, but the position and shape of the teeth.
There were herbivore dinosaurs too, ya know, and they didn't have sharp, pointy, curved teeth.
You assume that there ever was a "fall".
"Just to make my view clear I believe before the fall no animal, that includes dinosaurs, ate meat."
And you think that your believing or not believing in something actually has anything to do with whether or not that something is true? We can only hope that someday soon you don't believe in gravity and walk off a cliff.
And your evidence for this belief is, what, your buybull? Sorry, your buybull is the claim, not the evidence.
Confused?
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