"If you examine secular societies in comparison to religious societies; secular societies will consistently have less crime, unemployment, corruption and more freedom, share of wealth and a higher standard of living." The Refiner's Fire CHALLENGES the author to prove that statement!"
I'm not the author, but I'll give it a shot:
Norway.
Thus statement proved, and your 'argument' destroyed. NEXT!
"what has happened since 1962 since "God" and prayer were removed from public schools and government buildings!"
My country, the UK is still here; 4th biggest economy on the planet. And we actually have a state religion, so there's your argument raped to death before you so much as thought of it as a 'credible' one.
"Since then, things have become more secular, worse, and that is a proven fact!"
I refer the (Dis)Honourable member to the answer I gave just a few minutes ago. [/PM's Questions]
"the highest level of teenage drug abuse in any industrialized nation as well as the highest divorce rate"
...and yet, Holland has the lowest teen pregnancy rates in Europe, if not the world. Prostitution legal & soft drugs tolerated in it's capital, Amsterdam. Can you say 'Bristol Palin', Carmen? I know you can.
"We are the world's largest manufacturer of beer and the third greatest consumer of alcohol per capita"
Denmark (Carlsberg). Also, Finland, respectively. Estonian 'booze cruises' to Helsinki. Nope, nothing happening to them. Your point?
"some of the world's most liberal abortion laws, despite the many "pro-life" protests"
Abortion legal here in the UK since 1967. Yet no clinic bombings here. I wonder why...?!
"organized, public prayer in our schools is against the law, but yet our children's textbooks honor Buddha and Mohammed!"
Four words: Teach The Controversy, bitches. If you lot think your 'religion' has the right to be so much as mentioned in US schools, then ALL of them have to be equally proven to be valid too: even $cientology & The Flying Spaghetti Monster (Therefore L. Ron Hubbard is God, and Capt. Jack Sparrow is Jesus, and you lot don't have the right to question those facts). And as you lot are so eager to say that 'Atheism is a religion' too, therefore...!
'Teach the Controversy'. How that 'idea' post-Kitzmiller vs. Dover has blown up in your own faces, eh? Good. [/Karma]
"Magazines that would make the proverbial sailor blush appear on our grocery check-out lines for our children to see!"
Then your kids are made of sterner stuff than your 'sailors'. Your point II? Proof of Use of Bad Analogy. Your argument is invalid.
"Many American states have annual "gay" parades, and "gays" are now fighting for the right to marry - and our own President supports their cause!"
DOMA declared unconstitutional. So? Two words: Legal Precedent. Moral:
Like Norway, UK, Holland, Denmark, Finland (and more besides), America: They're still here.
(Secular) USA. Love it, or LEAVE it.
...oh, and as an argument-annihilating encore:
"One nation under God"? Perhaps at one time, but not anymore."
The reverse of the 1952 issue $10 note:
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Thanks for therefore admitting that all Americans then (and [I]before[/I] 1952; even slightly [I]after[/I] 1952) - including even the hardcore Pentecostal Snake Handlers - were Atheists.
Your point III, and you've struck out, Carmen.