[Q: What proof do you have that Heaven and Hell exist?]
Jesus is not in His tomb. What proof do you have that it does not?
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Ah, yes, every time we can't find the body of somebody, it's proof that they ascended to a higher plane of existence. So that goes for almost every person in history; we don't know where all those bodies are.
Wow I'm not in my tomb either; guess that proves GOD IS A CHICKEN NAMED BOB! Gotta love that Flawgic.
Oh wait ...I see that "HIS" is capitalized, so the original poster must have meant that Jesus was in somebody else's tomb and that somehow proves there is a Heaven and a Hell.
It's Friday, the 13th nogal! I am fundie'ied out. I need a beer. I just cannot think of a suitable repost.
Your God does not exist you religiously brain rotted cretin. You parents are of course to blame for your incurable stupidity. GodPissesMeOffAtTheEndOfTheDay.
a) Do you have any proof (outside the bible) that Jesus ever existed? - Remember the Josephus reference is a proven fraud.
@ Tolpuddle Martyr - "Eh, what does an empty tomb prove? Other than it's a tomb that is."
That doesn't even prove it's a tomb...
Alexander the Great is not in his tomb (or, like Jesus', at least we can't find it). Therefore, Olympus and Hades exist.
So, what does that tell us about Ambrose Bierce, Jimmy Hoffa, D. B. Cooper, and lots of other historically documented missing bodies?
Personally, I think I'm gonna start spreading the Gospel of Ambrose Bierce, just 'cause that'd piss off the cranky old bastard.
Schrodinger's cat is living in a teapot in orbit between Earth and Mars...or not.
Yay! I win!!!1!
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@ Boojum, I'll second that.
Jesus is not in His tomb.
You can show me the empty tomb? Does it have an inscription inside along the lines of "I am Jesus, I was killed and placed here and then I rose form the dead, wrote this and stumbled off for a pint at the local pub. See ya all later!"
When I was clinically dead during surgery, I saw neither Heaven nor Hell before they resuscitated me.
So, eyewitness testimony to a lack of a hereafter.
Either that, or the celestial denizens turned out the lights and thought, "If we're really quiet, she'll go away." :-)
Heck, I didn't even get the whole out-of-body, tunnel-of-light, experience. I feel so ripped off.
Of course, maybe I just wasn't dead long enough to get anywhere...
@Observable Reality
LIES! You sully the divine resurrection of the Man of Steel with science?! HERETIC!
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Yeah, that's the best I got. :p
That's it exactly. It is impossible to disprove or prove a god. Hence the Flying Spaghetti Monster which you can't disprove. However, there is no good evidence for heaven or hell. So I don't believe heaven and hell exist. But, if you have good evidence for their existence you can change my mind.
All you can do, is to believe that they do exist and to have faith in your belief. YouLoseRightNowAndInTheEnd.
@ Lilith
I had the same experience. The closest I got was a bright light with the doctors face above me. I've always thought that if I didn't remember what the Dr. had said, that maybe I could of thought it was Jesus, especially if I was on the delusional side to begin with.
I was dead, and then in a coma for three days, then I came back. OMG I'M JESUS!
Jesus is not in His tomb.
Grave robbers are more likely.
What proof do you have that it does not?
Learn about the burden of proof and why its on you to prove your fantasies are true; and not on us to prove a negative.
Okay people, there is a fine line between you guys making fun of the obviously stupid and usually hilarious things these morons say and and you being down right offensive yourselves. I refuse, I absolutely refuse to think that Jesus was the 'son of God' or whatever these overly religious, zealous nut jobs think, but I will not deny, like many of you seem to be doing the man's existence. I'm an Archeologist by trade studying to Medieval and Pre-Medieval history of the region formerly known as Palestine, and I hate to break it to all of you, we do have records of a man named Jesus of Nazareth. I'm a Jew personally, but I won't deny he existed, that's just not right people. If you all want to claim to be above these fundies, then you should stop behaving like them and stop being bigots yourselves.
I agree that believing that Jesus existed (entirely possible) and Jesus being both the son of god and god himself (preposterous) are two entirely different concepts. The miracle-producing walker-on-water that diehard theists believe in is nonsensical, as is the suggestion that he died and was resurrected, but I'll grant that it is a bit hasty to dismiss his possible existence as a normal human being who died - and stayed dead. His remains could be under somebody's basement in Jerusalem, for all I know or care.
However, to return to the original post, non-sequiturs don't come much bigger than this. Even from fundies, whose grasp of ordinary logic is tenuous at best.
While you're at it, prove Walt Disney's head isn't in the Carnation freezer on Main Street, U.S.A.
(Speaking of funny shit nobody with a lick of sense would care about anyway.)
Jesus, if he existed, died 2000 years ago. The chance for there being anything left in a grave that long is very small.
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