Einstein's theories claim that the speed of light is a constant, i.e. it
cannot be changed. However, in the last few years scientists have been able to
slow light down to almost zero, and now they have managed to get to almost
infinitely fast. If human scientists can get light to change its speed then it
is no trouble for God, who created light, to vary its speed. Records of the
speed of light made over the last four centuries indicate that its speed was
faster in the past. The speed of light is a factor in many measurements used to
estimate the age and size of the universe, but scientists making these
estimations have assumed that the speed of light never changes. The experiments
described above challenge this belief. If faster speeds for light were put into
the age calculating equations they would give much younger dates.
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Einstein (if it even was him) claimed that the speed of light in a vacuum is constant.
Everyone (yes, even Einstein!) knows that if you put light through some other medium it'll slow down.
Well, then there are quantum effects.
But really you're just reaching, now. "Oh, that could explain my version of events, so let's not care whether it actually does or not and just say it does! I are such great science good greatness!"
"Records of the
speed of light made over the last four centuries indicate that its speed was
faster in the past."
What records are these? Hows it feel to be such a liar Roger? Trying to be another Kent Hovind?
To the tune of "Bringing In The Sheaves".
Lying for Jesus!
Lying for Jesus!
let's all get together to lie for Jesus!
And so forth...
Sorry I can't think up lyrics tonight, my brain has been near destroyed by reading fundie nonsense.
"Does 'speed of light in a vacuum' mean anything to you?"
You complete bastard, Roger's just ruined my brand new vacuum clearner by smashing it open and shining a torch in it. I expect you to pay for a replacement.
Maybe I've screwed up the math, but wouldn't a decreasing speed of light cause supernova SN1987a to be even longer ago and give us older dates? If light was, say, 100 times faster when SN1987a exploded, that would mean it was 100 times further away: a=b/(arctan x), where a is the distance and b is the radius of the dust ring. If light was 100 times faster 6,000 years ago, that would make b 100 times bigger (b=ktc), where t is the time it took the light to reach the dust ring (known and fixed by observation - about 200 days) c=the speed of light, k is an adjustment for the tilt of the ring. Since k, t and x don't change (they're based on Hubble observations), a would also be 100 times bigger. At a constant 300,000 km/s, light travels 5.7x10^16 km in 6,000 years. At 30,000,000 km/s decreasing to 300,000 km/s over 6,000 years, it would travel 2.9x10^18 km, which is only 51 times as far, not 100. What am I missing?
However, in the last few years scientists have been able to
slow light down to almost zero, and now they have managed to get to almost
infinitely fast.
Did you actually read the research? Or did you just read a newspaper article about it? Because I have the strong suspicion that you pulled that last little bit out of your arse.
Jake Steel:
It's their only tenable solution to the starlight latency problem (the only reasonable alternative is Omphalos, and nobody likes that one). If the speed of light is not constant but dropping (the name you want to look up at talk.origins is Setterfield) then they can shoehorn in a seemingly old universe into a 6000-year span.
There is a subtle reduction in measured values of c over time, but that's generally considered to be a factor of increasing precision in measurements and not a change in the constant itself.
The speed of light is only a constant in a perfect environment, a ZERO-GRAVITY VACUUM!
Please complete at least one (1) high school level science course before you post.
No... speed of light in a vacuum is indeed a constant... Just like gravity.
I mean, you didn't really think we forgot about prisms?
Citation needed that did not come out of the Starfleet computer banks.
You can't change the physics to fit your book, unless it is science fiction. And even then, you have only a little leeway before the fans will harass you about it
And how the fuck did they measure the speed of light back in the day? It took us until the 1900's to even figure out the actual value of the speed of light, and that was after centuries of bickering on whether or not such a number exist.
Something (especially light itself) can *appear* to travel faster than c, but that's it.
http://www.spacetimetravel.org/bewegung/bewegung4.html
Of course your argument begs the question, why would God want to change the speed of light? Is he trying to hide some shoddy workmanship?
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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