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All this Globial Warming BS is to force the normal people to live as WHAT THE Evironential Wacko( Commies) what us to.

what food to eat, what cars to drive, what light bulbs to use.. what to think and what to read.

and who to like and who to not to like.

PURE BS...IF THEY CAN'T BEAT US THRUE NORMAL CHANNELS.. THEY USE THE BACK-DOOOR AND USE SCARE TATICS.

I REST MY CASE.

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old comment by Stürmen

"All this Globial Warming BS is to force the normal people to live as WHAT THE Evironential Wacko( Commies) what us to."
Yes, the communists are behind it! Damn them and their wanting to help the environment while allowing you to save money! Damn them all to hell! [/sarcasm]

"what food to eat,"
Incorrect.

"what cars to drive, what light bulbs to use"
True, however my electric car only costs me about twenty bucks a month to recharge and my LED lightbulbs last eight times longer than those older models that I used to use.
So remind me: how are enormous savings a bad thing?

"and who to like and who to not to like."
Incorrect! Although we do recommend voting for someone who doesn't think that Global Warming is a lie or who thinks that we can take and take from the world because "Rapture will happen in the next twenty or fifty years" (Reagan's Minister of the Interior believed that if I recall).

"PURE BS..."
Scientists disagree.

"IF THEY CAN'T BEAT US THRUE NORMAL CHANNELS.. THEY USE THE BACK-DOOOR AND USE SCARE TATICS."
Incorrect again! Although what you said does remind me of how fundies operate.

"I REST MY CASE."
Shame your case is built on strawmen... that I just took a match to.

old comment by Zabimaru

I don't like writing in all caps. I find it rude and irritating and I don't like it when people do it. But seriously, this guy really wants to make me ask, once again, WHAT THE FUCK IS THE GODDAMN CONSPIRACY?

What are the "Evironential Wackos" trying to do? What is their big evil plan?
Seriously, all people are saying is that we should be more energy efficient. Right now we are using energy as if there was no tomorrow. And we're mainly using non-renewable energy sources. Do you get what that means? That means that the sources of energy we use are NOT renewable, i.e. they are going to fucking run out.

So I don't care if man made global warming is true or not. Evidence points to that it is, but hey, what do I know. I do however know that regardless of our effect on the climate, we need to lessen our energy consumption and go over to renewable energy sources.

Our entire economy, everything from transportation,to farming, to manufacture... whatever you buy, eat, drink, drive or otherwise use... is built on the fact that we have oil, coal and uranium. But those things are going to run out. We have uranium for a couple hundred years left, tops. No one can be sure how much oil and coal we have. Sooner or later there will be none, and if we haven't come up with something better by then our entire economy and our entire society will collapse under the weight of our uncontrolled energy consumption.

So, if the "commies" want you to save some money for yourself by saving some energy, and if this leads to saving human civilization in the long run, then WHY IS THAT SUCH A FUCKING BAD THING?

Please, can some of these nuts (I've heard similar things many, many times) please, please, some day explain what the hell the evil plan is.. Because I don't get it..

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I'm sorry, guys, but oppressive environmentalism in response to global warming really does have some potential, in future, to become the new state religion. It may not get that extreme, I am hoping not, but already I am seeing people being intimidated into "being green." Let's hope that isn't going to extend to corporations...but it probably will as the pendulum swings to an extreme. What is the agenda? The same-old, same-old. Power over others. The cause doesn't matter, whatever happens to be handy at the time, and environmentalism is trendy right now because of our global warming situation (which is quite real).

Environmentalism is good, but not to an extreme. Example:
the movement toward fluoresecent lightbulbs and away from incandescent ones -- in some people fluorescent lights cause migraines and they are notoriously bad for eyesight in the long run, and yet before long they might become mandatory, as they are scheduled to do in Australia, I believe. If and when the US follows suit a lot of people are going to be made miserable and perhaps ill, and more legislation in other "green" matters is sure to follow. Things like this, I suspect, is what this man is raving about.

What's wrong about this post is the knee-jerk blind hysteria and the name-calling (seriously, who says "Commies" any more??).

old comment by Anon

Well ... it's not only Global Warming.

The price of oil is over $100 per barrel, again. Fossile fuels are FINITE. It is very probable that the maximum of global crude oil production occurred some years ago. Humanity will never ever use as much oil as in 2005/2006, because it simply ISNT THERE. It becomes more and more difficult to extract new oil sources. The US may invade another country to steal their oil, but this will buy you only a short delay before the inevitable. Same for "Drill, Baby, drill!". Gives you 1-2 more years, then you have the same problem as before. And "Praying for low gas prices" ... go ahead, try it.

How about saving energy, improving energy efficiency, and building alternative energy systems NOW? As long as fossile fuels are available for a still affordable price? Sounds like a good idea, doesn't it?

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