Hello peoples. If (macro)evolution is so obvious, and is scientific "fact" (Whatever you say it is), then why does everyone need to be taught about it? Wouldn't it be stunningly clear to everyone?
In fact, why do we have no mention of (macro)evolution before Darwin? Didn't their brains evolve enough to understand? (If 50 people have a random thought, does that make it a fact?)
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I don't know who said it was 'obvious', but it takes a step back to look at all the things going on, and properly study all the evidence to realize that things change. Certainly if organisms change to adapt to their environment as scientists have seen for the last 200 years, certainly we can safely assume they have ALWAYS changed?
We know already that environments change; we've caused some ourselves, and seen evidence in the soil and ice. We've also seen organisms change, take nylon-eating bacteria for example. It become 'obvious', like puzzle pieces falling into place, when you look at evidence, which IDers and creationists never seem to do.
Hello peoples. If heliocentricism is so obvious, and is scientific "fact" (Whatever you say it is), then why does everyone need to be taught about it? Wouldn't it be stunningly clear to everyone?
In fact, why do we have no mention of heliocentricism before Copernicus? Didn't their brains evolve enough to understand?
If a²+b²=c² is a fact then why does everyone need to be taught about it? wouldn't it just be obvious to anyone scribbling random geometric forms? And why is there no mention of it before Pythagoras??
Just because some godless Greek sodomite thought it up doesn't make it a fact .
If (macro)evolution is so obvious, and is scientific "fact", then why does everyone need to be taught about it?
If your religion is a "fact", then why bother to indoctrinate children with it?
No, sorry. Bad example.
Evolution by natural selection is a bit counterintuitive. No one would look at all the animals sitting around today and say "Hey, I bet these guys evolved slowly from previous forms!"
In fact, why do we have no mention of (macro)evolution before Darwin?
Well, we do. People proposed the idea of animals evolving long before Darwin, but he came up with a method for the evolution. That's why he gets all the credit.
If (macro)evolution is so obvious, and is scientific "fact" (Whatever you say it is), then why does everyone need to be taught about it? Wouldn't it be stunningly clear to everyone?
It needs to be taught for the same reasons that mathematics, geometry, and cooking need to be taught.
....and for the same reason Christians have to teach their children about Christianity....
Idiot.
There was mention of evolution before Darwin. Some ancient Greek scholars hypothesised that humans had not always existed in their current form, and that they may have come from another creature, perhaps a fish.
"Hello peoples. If (macro)evolution is so obvious, and is scientific "fact" (Whatever you say it is), then why does everyone need to be taught about it? Wouldn't it be stunningly clear to everyone?"
You could say the same thing about gravity, inertia, atomic particles, celluar theory, the germ theory of disease, and the laws of thermodynamics. They are only "obvious" in retrospect, but they could be roughly concluded from logic, personal observation, and some really good guessing skills.
If you look at the evidence before your eyes (anything other than the bible), then, yes it is "stunningly" clear to those with a functioning mind.
If 50 people have the same random thought, that is called a "trend". The phenomenon, once identified, can be explored further for correlations of causality. Yow. Science!
macroevolution is a word you people made up when we proved evolution to you. The response from your side of the fence was that what we had proven wasn't "real" evolution.
It's like when Hovind told the one scientist that he could win the challenge by creating another big bang, which of course would destroy this universe. Then he claims no one will take him up on his challenge.
I do think evolution is really obvious and simple. I don't know why it isn't stunningly clear to everyone. They are probably blinded by their religious beliefs.
There were mentions of evolution before Charles Darwin, (Lamarck, Darwin's grandfather, poor old Wallace who never gets any credit, not to mention all the non-european cultures who observed evolution), so I don't really get your point.
As for the (If 50 people....) I don't know what the hell you are talking about.
Wow. KNOWLEDGE DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY except in small, relatively unadvanced ways, and even then, not very much in humans.
Hello peoples. If (macro)evolution is so obvious, and is scientific "fact" (Whatever you say it is), then why does everyone need to be taught about it? Wouldn't it be stunningly clear to everyone?
If John Hancock signed the Decloration of Independece then why does everyone need to be taught about it? Wouldn't it be clear to everyone?
In fact, why do we have no mention of (macro)evolution before Darwin? Didn't their brains evolve enough to understand? (If 50 people have a random thought, does that make it a fact?)
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there WERE several people who came up with theories of evolution before Darwin, even as far back as some Ancient Greek guy, but they lacked the scientific empirical data to back up their theories, Darwin was the one that collected all the data together into a cohesive form.
And just because something is a fact, doesn't mean it's obvious, it's not immediately intuitively obvious that the world is round, people have to be taught about that, but only the fringeist of fringe loonies disputes that fact. (giving this guy the benefit of the doubt that he's not one of those extra fringy loonies).
And given the evidence we have available today, I tend to think that evolution IS stunningly obvious to anybody with a modicum of intelligence who thinks about it for 10 seconds.
If reading is so obvious, why does everyone need to be taught about it?
Why is there no mention of it before the discovery of writing?
“If (macro)evolution”
It’s evolution. Micro- and macro- have their uses in biology, but creationists just use the two to split ‘science i cannot ignore’ and ‘science i reject.’ Macro is just hte accumulation of microevolution changes.
“ is so obvious, and is scientific "fact" (Whatever you say it is), then why does everyone need to be taught about it?”
It is obvious IFF you understand the scientific observations that lead to and support the theory.
“Wouldn't it be stunningly clear to everyone?”
Once they understand the observations, yes.
“In fact, why do we have no mention of (macro)evolution before Darwin?”
A number of the observations weren’t made until Darwin’s work inspired us to go look for them.
"Didn't their brains evolve enough to understand?”
So, like, you know they couldn’t invent lightbulbs until after they invented electricity, right? Nothing to do with their brain ability.
"(If 50 people have a random thought, does that make it a fact?)”
You could look it up, but that might risk learning.
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