[Richard] Dawkins’ proselytizing ways remind me of my pimply youthful days at boarding school where those into smoking cigarettes and boozing (worse was yet to come) seemed to be really keen to get others to follow their destructive and illicit behaviour. Why did they try to coerce their fellow students into doing such things? Was it ‘safety in numbers’, that they felt a little guilty for their behaviour and would feel more secure if they could get more to join in their little rebellion?
Professor Dawkins’ obsessive campaign to try to convince others to be atheists reminds me of those days. Perhaps it is not that Dawkins really believes that there is no Creator-God, but that he wishes there were not and if he could just convince enough others to agree with him, then he will feel more secure. Has he confused his wishful thinking for reality?
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Perhaps it is not that fundies really believe that there is a Creator-God, but that they wish there were and if they could just convince enough others to agree with them, then they will feel more secure. Have they confused their wishful thinking for reality?
Fix'd.
I would say, "what a shiny mirror you've got there," but this argument can be used to argue for or against any statement. In other words, it is completely meaningless.
"[Richard] Dawkins’ proselytizing ways remind me of my pimply youthful days at boarding school where those into smoking cigarettes and boozing (worse was yet to come) seemed to be really keen to get others to follow their destructive and illicit behaviour."
Or those who had "found God" seemed really keen to get others to follow their destructive delusion.
"Why did they try to coerce their fellow students into doing such things? Was it safety in numbers’, that they felt a little guilty for their behaviour and would feel more secure if they could get more to join in their little rebellion?"
Yup, proclaiming insane beliefs always feels better if one is doing it with a group of equally insane persons.
"Professor Dawkins’ obsessive campaign to try to convince others to be atheists reminds me of those days. Perhaps it is not that Dawkins really believes that there is no Creator-God, but that he wishes there were not and if he could just convince enough others to agree with him, then he will feel more secure. Has he confused his wishful thinking for reality?"
Dawkins claims are supported by evidence and logic, but theists have indeed confused wishful thinking for reality.
Did I miss a memo? Is it opposite day?
Why did they try to coerce their fellow students into doing such things?
Fundy Word Redefinition Project:
coerce, v.t. to urge; to suggest; to recommend
Has he confused his wishful thinking for reality?
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Hi Don, it's good to see people questioning the motives and ideologies of others. Don, do you sometimes feel as though you were pointlessly spinning bullshit that only those who are already gullible morons are going to pay any attention to? Do you sometimes feel that you're wasting your one and only comparatively short life in delusional reveries of a repressive nature and day-dreaming of immortal zombie beings? Don, are you sick and tired of kowtowing to an invisible cloudster? Then all you have to do is stop talking to the ceiling and to gullible morons, drag yourself out of the pit of lies and the hideous mire of religious trickery, and step, a free man at last, into the nourishing light of reality.
All the best Don, I hope you succeed.
Sincerely, Pule.
Your implication that Dawkins is up to something illicit could leave you open to proceedings.
Dawkins is measured in his speech and manner. If anyone seems obsessive about something it Don Batten. At least Dawkins hasn't confused reality for wishful thinking, like some...
That's right, Don, when all else fails just tell yourself that the problem is that your opponents are really just insecure. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
Here, Don, your cluelessness has earned yourself your very own Privilege Denying Dude:
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Oh, you mean like how Christians always try to get everyone else to believe what they believe? You know, for a little communal reinforcement?
And why is it so important to Christians to make themselves believe that atheists really do believe in their god? Is their faith so shaky that they need communal reinforcement even from people who don't share their beliefs?
Don Battens proselytizing ways remind me of my pimply youthful days at boarding school where those into smoking cigarettes and boozing (worse was yet to come) seemed to be really keen to get others to follow their destructive and illicit behaviour. Why did they try to coerce their fellow students into doing such things? Was it safety in numbers’, that they felt a little guilty for their behaviour and would feel more secure if they could get more to join in their little rebellion?
Don Battens obsessive campaign to try to convince others to be christians reminds me of those days. Perhaps it is not that Battens really believes that there is a Creator-God, but that he wishes there were and if he could just convince enough others to agree with him, then he will feel more secure. Has he confused his wishful thinking for reality?
Fixed.
Perhaps it is not that Dawkins really believes that there is no Creator-God, but that he wishes there were not and if he could just convince enough others to agree with him, then he will feel more secure.
Says the man who is whipped into a panic about someone daring to publicly voice their disbelief in your God. Who's the insecure one?
Here's the real reason and YOU KNOW IT. Christian numbers have kept Atheists silent and repressed in America, Atheists have been allowed no voice,worse under threat for even proclaiming their Atheism.
Hitchens and Dawkins have already noted the statistical rise in Atheism as unlikely they're new Atheist, just ones who feel the enviroments more accepting then it was.
Because you can see the tipping point coming, because you know your bullshit can't survive on it's own.
You KNOW you have to silence the unbelievers before they have a signifigant group voice
Of a country that contains a reported 85% Christian population it's odd that not even a third of that attend church.
"Why did they try to coerce their fellow students into doing such things?"
Coerce, what a hypocrit. The government "coerces" on this matter, bourgeois puritanism coerces on this matter. I doubt any of the students threatened or attacked the other students if they refused.
And why? Because it's fun and just like when you enjoy anything else you tell other people "you gotta check this out."
It's ironic that anti-drug people emphasize "not listening to peer pressure" when most of the pressure is actually against drugs and in reality people do drugs because it's fun or to explore different states of being, not because other people are doing it.
I'm getting sick and tired of all those hordes of atheists who show up at my door every Sunday morning, trying to hand me blank pamphlets.
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I CAN HAZ NOO KEEBORD?!?!?
Shit! The irony meter, she's gonna blow!
*Runs a safe distance and dives behind a pile of sandbags as mushroom cloud erupts on the horizon*
Heh. That...doesn't work. Really.
I never really liked Dawkins. Then someone linked me to a video of him arguing for an hour with this horrifying smiling banshee, and I was like 'okay, he should have gone for the jugular sooner, but he kept the moral high ground despite her many underhanded attempts to acquire it, and I can respect that.'
You know, I have a friend who claims that Richard Dawkins is one of the rudest atheists he's ever seen. When we first heard that my husband and I stared blankly at him said "What? Really? When was that? I've never even really heard him be pushy.Perhaps blunt, but never rude.You should watch something by Hitchen's if you think Dawkin's is rude."
Nahhhhhhhhh I'm pretty sure he doesn't believe there's a god.. whether it is yours or anyone else's.
Perhaps you don't REALLY believe in a creatorgod.. but you just really wish there were one.. that way, you wouldn't be alone in the world and your otherwise insignificant life would have some imagined meaning, rather than taking the time to MAKE IT have meaning. Hmm... I think we've just had a breakthrough here.
I can assure you, without having met the man, that Dawkins is a great deal more secure than you. You have to be, to think that most atheists are actually theists who have been arm-twisted into changing their position.
No, Dawkins and most atheists are atheists because we really, seriously, honestly, truthfully do NOT think that any gods exist. Not you god, not Zeus, not Odin, not whoever the lost Wumbawumba tribe of Central Africa worship. Dawkins has done a better job than most of explaining why all deities are almost certainly ficticious, but that is all.
And your last sentence gets the shiny mirror of the week award. You need welder's goggles to look into that mirror.
Wow! That is one shiny, shiny mirror you've got there, Donny.
[Richard] Dawkins’ proselytizing ways remind me more of your pimply youthful days at boarding school where teachers into arithmetic and algebra (worse was yet to come) seemed to be really keen to get others to follow their behaviour. Why did they try to coerce their students into doing such things? Was it safety in numbers’, that they felt a little guilty for their behaviour and would feel more secure if they could get more to join with them?
Professor Dawkins’ obsessive campaign to try to convince others to be atheists reminds me of those days. Perhaps it is not that Dawkins really believes that one plus one doesn't equal three, but that he wishes they did not and if he could just convince enough others to agree with him, then he will feel more secure. Has he confused his wishful thinking for reality?
~ The thickheads in form 2 Blue
Don Batten had pimply youthful days at boarding school, did he? Now why do I see this pimply little person as the one who went running to the teachers saying, "They're smoking again, Mr Squeers,"
I speak as one who would have been a nerd if the word was invented 30 years earlier
Benny Hinn's proselytizing ways remind me of my pimply youthful days at boarding school where those into smoking cigarettes and boozing (worse was yet to come) seemed to be really keen to get others to follow their destructive and illicit behaviour. Why did they try to coerce their fellow students into doing such things? Was it safety in numbers’, that they felt a little guilty for their behaviour and would feel more secure if they could get more to join in their little rebellion?
Mr. Hinn's obsessive campaign to try to convince others to be christians reminds me of those days. Perhaps it is not that Hinn really believes that there is no Creator-God, but that he wishes there was and if he could just convince enough others to agree with him, then he will feel more secure. Has he confused his wishful thinking for reality?
Fixed.
I know that apparently everyone who doesn't agree with Dawkins or read his work evidently thinks he's a screaming lunatic, but he ISN'T. He never yells, he's usually quite polite, and he actually makes pretty good points. He's hardly obsessive about convincing others to be atheists; his obsession is with setting up proper science education. That's his dog in this fight; education.
No, I'm pretty sure Dawkins is convinced (as much as anyone can be) that there is no God and is just being brutally honest.
Sounds like you have some practice in self-dillusion.
Now if there was anything destructive he was doing, you might have an argument. However, you religious people have been doing the exact same thing for thousands of years...trying to promote your view-point. Why the need to villify those whose viewpoint differs than yours, calling it "destructive" and "illicit"? You only talk that way because you don't think that anyone should have the right to question your completely unsubstantiated claims, and when they do, you NEED to villify them because you have NO way to answer our questions and concerns in a logical or mature manner.
Confused?
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