[Apparently suggesting whales are a subgroup of fish]
Groups of animals are just created with similar traits; that's why they can be grouped.
That's why a designer would make more sense. Evolution couldn't possibly explain why whales have hair, but it makes sense from an ID standpoint; that God made groups of animals similars, and added more similarities with each subgroup.
An accident couldn't have made variety that can follow a logical grouping pattern of kingdom, phylum, species, genus, etc.
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>> That's why a designer would make more sense. Evolution couldn't possibly explain why whales have hair, but it makes sense from an ID standpoint <<
Eesh, I really hope this nitwit doesn't teach marine biology to impressionable children. That said...
Well, no, actually the fact that baleen whales (which have an incredibly specialized version of hair) eat krill, which must be strained out of the water explains why evolution saw fit to grace them with that kind of hair. The reason they have blubber and not otter-like pelts is also easily explained by evolution, since whales (as we know them today) cannot groom themselves the way otters do, and therefore would die of hypothermia. Not to mention the whole fur creating drag while diving thing.
Also, whales are mammals, not fish. They don't extract oxygen from the water via gills, they give birth to live young, said young drink milk until they're old enough to eat adult food...
So an intelligent designer gave whales hair (and they only have it to any degree during fetal development...hmmm, I wonder why that would be?), a structure that increases an animals drag in water? I guess we should tell the competetive swimmers to stop shaving their body hair, as it is clearly a better hydrodynamic design to leave the hair on.
<<< An accident couldn't have made variety that can follow a logical grouping pattern of kingdom, phylum, species, genus, etc. >>>
When each species is building off another, it damn well could - and in fact it'd be completely illogical if it didn't.
I think I'd better step in here, and correct some problems. I'm responsible for the intelligent design of life on Earth. Anyway, someone here asked about the different varieties of similar species. These are not the result of our laziness. They're called "BRAND EXTENSIONS." Coke makes Coke, diet Coke, lime Coke, vanilla Coke, cherry Coke, almost diet Coke and many other such things, rather than restricting themselves to one design. Similarly, we made many different kinds of fish. Of course, whales aren't fish; we know that. See, some time ago, iDesigncorp sold off several phyla, and we bought them like hotcakes. Once we had design rights, we made whales and dolphins in an attempt to expand our standard product line and make it compatible with an iDesigncorp system.
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Yeah, your argument would work if:
Kingdom, phylum, species, and genus weren't human concepts created so we could classify different kinds of life.
The entire mass of data on life, not just one or two bits of questionable evidence (The Kent Hovind approach), shows that intelligent design is what actually happened.
whales are mammals. cows are mammals and so are humans.
I agree that some humans may look a bit like whales but its not really that close.
evolution is not accidental.
If even the designer himself can't tell the difference between water-breathing Fish, and the mammalian, live young-bearing air -breathing lifeforms (question: why do Whales, Dolphins, Porpoise Orca, Seals etc have to surface ...?! Aye, there's the debate-destroying rub, indeed), then he's an un 'Intelligent', nay, a fucking stupid designer. Three words: Duck Billed Platypus.
That logical grouping (kingdom, phylum, species, etc.) is EXACTLY what you would get with the evolution of creatures into similar creatures, then into not-so-similar creatures, then into quite-different creatures, then into completely different creatures.
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