Robert Jeffress #fundie

Robert Jeffress #fundie washingtonpost.com

At the Values Voters summit in Washington, prominent evangelical leader Robert Jeffress told reporters that Mormonism was a cult and that Romney was not a Christian.

“Mormonism is not Christianity,” Jeffress declared...“Do we want a candidate who is a good moral person, or do we want a candidate who is a born-again follower of Jesus Christ?"

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old comment by Anon-e-moose

Well, Mitt Romney is your only possible credible candidate to oppose Obama next year.

Insiders in the mainstream Republican Party admit that the likes of Batscat Shelly and Mike Fuckabee are an embarrassment to them.

Right now, Obama's popularity rating is 25-30%. Romney's is just 20%. Don't forget those all-important, nay, candidate-killing moderates & swing-voters. You in particular, Batscat Shelly & Mike Fuckabee; your BS won't go down too well with them, but also you can't afford to be seen turning moderate, though, for fear of alienating your Teabagger bum-chums. Enjoy your paradox.

"Do we want a candidate who is a good moral person, or do we want a candidate who is a born-again follower of Jesus Christ?"

You certainly relied on the Mormons' aid in your Pro-Life campaigns. So no hypocrisy there, nosiree. [/hyper-sarcasm]

Besides, aren't you a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Christians yourself?! We're all born Atheist, you know.

'The Golden Rule', and all that jazz. So long-time Christian Jonathan Edwards:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Edwards_%28athlete%29#Religious_beliefs

is a good moral person? You said it, Bobby-boy, I didn't.

old comment by breakerslion

The only real difference I have ever been able to discern between a cult and an established religion is this: cults tend to indoctrinate adults and "religions" tend to indoctrinate children, usually their own.

By that standard, all Christian denominations started as cults, and Mormons no longer are one. Neither are those yahoos that grew out of the Millerites and/or the Seven-day Adventists, but they make me laugh when they throw stones. Jehovah's Witnesses might arguably still be a cult because of their energetic recruitment doctrine.

As far as values are concerned, I think Robert's are twisted toward pissing on his fellow humans. Is a sense of self-importance really that crucial to you?

old comment by SpukiKitty

Of course....a REAL FOLLOWER of J.C....and I mean, REALLY FOLLOWS the guy....would be a good moral person. Mormons follow Jesus, too, albeit in a rather novel way (with junk about Gold Plates, Hebrew Indigenous Americans, Planet Kolob, Magic Undies, etc.).
That said, Fundie Puritans are not good Christians, they ignore the New Testament & Jesus' commands (other than preach the Gospel). They're Fascist psychopathic Pharrissees who PRETEND to follow the Nazarean.
Also the "Better to be A True ChristianTM than a good moral person" is the stupidest thing I've ever heard of.
Finally, when it comes to strait-laced prudery, Mormons & Puritans have much in common....They should be allies.

old comment by solomongrundy

Lets look at some of the born-again followers of Jesus Christ (with apologies to whoever I stole these from)

Ted Haggard - relentless crusader against the homosexual lifestyle who's totally straight now.

Kent Hovind - defender of creationism jailed because he attacked evolutionary theory. Oh, sorry, he's a tax fraud who got caught.

Jimmy Swaggart - televangelist preacher who got caught "ministering" to prostitutes.

Jim Bakker - televangelist who got caught having an affair and had to step down, only to be chaged with misappropriation of funds from his church. He and his wife Tammy lived in a multi-million dollar mansion, complete with an air-conditioned dog house.

Dozens more here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scandals_involving_evangelical_Christians

old comment by Anon-e-moose

@Old Viking

"I wouldn't put a born-again follower of Jesus Christ in charge of a yard sale."

In an episode of the travelogue series "Billy Connolly's Route 66" (about this legendary road's direct & indirect influence on American modern history & culture, as he travels such on a custom Harley-Davidson three-wheeler), whilst in Kansas, the 'Big Yin' stops off at a 'Yard Sale' (UK: 'Car Boot Sale'), to see what there is on offer. One family has chickens for sale, another has general bric-a-brac. He then approaches one man who has a Nazi banner - Swastika & all - and a Wehrmacht ceremonial dagger for sale, amongst other WWII memorabilia. He's eager to detail where it came from, who previously owned it, almost as if he's proud of it.

Yet, when Billy asked about a certain item in a display case, and for the camera crew to focus in on such, the man starts to get all antsy about it, being very evasive and all, covering it up; even saying 'Oh, I dunno if you folks over in England would like this!', yet Billy insists on seeing it. What was it?

A stack of bumper stickers with the slogan 'Obama Sucks'.

Nothing more needs to be said.

--EDIT--

I just remembered that I'd recorded that particular episode of "Billy Connolly's Route 66". Here's the proof:

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'There's something about a Swastika, that just stops me in my tracks. That's the second one I've seen in a few weeks. I saw one in Scotland. And it... it does something deep inside me; it scares the bejesus out of me. I get unsettled.'

-Billy Connolly, "Billy Connolly's Route 66"

PROTIP: Fred Phelps & his WBC are from Kansas. Nothing more needs to be said II.

Robert Jeffress #fundie washingtonpost.com

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