On a Christian beheading an ISIS prisoner:
I must confess now that the old fleshy man in me thinks (dancing smiley)
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"We are better then that."
does exactly what ISIS does.
"We are still better then that as we worship the right God.
I have no problem with that. There is an old saying that turnabout is fair play. Anyone in ISIS deserves the kind of treatment that ISIS dishes out. ISIS has murdered well over 100,000 people. It is the flip side of the "Golden Rule": "What you do unto others is likely to be done unto you, so watch what you are doing."
@DFM:
I have no problem with that. There is an old saying that turnabout is fair play. Anyone in ISIS deserves the kind of treatment that ISIS dishes out.
I agree, but I'm not a member of a religious group which professes to be better than everyone else and follows a man who professed pure pacifism. For a Christian to celebrate the murder of anyone, even an ISIS member, seems pretty darn hypocritical.
I'm pretty sure either "you" would be feeling that way because neither is inseparable from the other.
@DFM:
I'll admit that it doesn't satisfy the baser parts of human nature but that's why we invented the first-person shooter. Now you can have the satisfaction of both taking the high road AND blowing someone's goddamned head off & flipping the bird at the fountaining neck stump (Brutal DOOM works well for this purpose).
We should get out of there and let the Shiite fundies and Sunni fundies cut each others heads off. We should cut off their oil supply so they have no money for bullets that way they have to do it up close and personal.
It leaves the christian fundies untouched, but maybe we can get the Catholics and protestants to follow the muslim example.
@OHP
Certainly, the Golden Rule has a flip side. The Golden Rule is a mere codification of the principle that people generally treat others the way that they are treated. Not always, but usually.
The Golden Rule is an acknowledgement of that fact. It says, in reality, if you want to be treated well, treat others well.
Taking revenge against gross violation of the Golden Rule preserves the Golden Rule by the process of selection. If one treats homicidal terrorists with kindness, that merely convinces them that we are idiots and encourages them. If we treat them the way that they treat others, then we are delivering the message of the Golden Rule by enforcing it. When we permit terrorists to continue living, sooner or later they will wreak more mayhem.
The Golden Rule is not some arbitrary benevolent idea, it is an evolutionary adaptation to survival. It only works when retribution for its violation is enforced. Failure to do so is a negative survival trait.
@OHP
Certainly, the Golden Rule has a flip side. The Golden Rule is a mere codification of the principle that people generally treat others the way that they are treated. Not always, but usually.
The Golden Rule is an acknowledgement of that fact. It says, in reality, if you want to be treated well, treat others well.
Taking revenge against gross violation of the Golden Rule preserves the Golden Rule by the process of selection. If one treats homicidal terrorists with kindness, that merely convinces them that we are idiots and encourages them. If we treat them the way that they treat others, then we are delivering the message of the Golden Rule by enforcing it. When we permit terrorists to continue living, sooner or later they will wreak more mayhem.
The Golden Rule is not some arbitrary benevolent idea, it is an evolutionary adaptation to survival. It only works when retribution for its violation is enforced. Failure to do so is a negative survival trait.
The rest of the thread is actually commendable. They opposed what happened. I have to give RR credit for that.
Personally, I think the morality of an action is the same no matter who does it and who it's done to.
So in this case, I hold the Christian in just as much contempt as I do ISIS. I would hold them in just as much contempt if they were an atheist, too. Killing a prisoner is wicked when they do it, and it's wicked when we do it, too.
@freako104
I wouldn't. The only thing those RR posters have proved is that stopped clocks are right twice a day.
@DFM:
@OHP
@DFM:
I concede that you are correct. Thanks.
Wow. Just... wow. That's exactly the kind of thing we DON'T need. We don't want to be the monsters they say we are, and more importantly, we don't want to be the monsters that THEY are. Be careful when you fight monsters, the abyss stares back and all that.
We have to be better, or nothing is ever going to get better.
"Dem Islamers is savages, killing us amazing goodly 'Mericans with swords,,,,
I'd really like to take a head off a few of dem, thatd showem! Shock an Awe n'all"
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