I agree with your article "Toying With Death" and also with Fabienne's comments (below). Please allow me to briefly explain my own experience with violent video games. I did not come to the Lord (His rescue, not my doing) until age 50. I am now 57. Just prior to that time, both of my sons and I were playing violent video games, specifically "Doom" and "Rise of the Triad." We did, of course, also destroy the games back then. I don't think these games are even around anymore as the so called "graphics" would be too slow and antiquated for the most up-to-date "modern gamer."
Anyway, I remember becoming very expert at these two games and actually "enjoying" how the blood and body parts flew all over the computer screen, especially when making a long range sniper style "kill." I don't mean to sound macabre here but that was the reality of the experience. Also, during the various sequences and levels of the games, music, often with "Satan's beat" (the heavy base beat you hear coming out of many cars going down the road) would be playing in the background. Also you would hear various phrases spoken by the characters which included many swear words and even taking God's name in vain. This was 8 years ago. The games of today, because of computer advancements, must be many times worse by comparison.
Both of these games were positively created for the sole purpose of "training" people how to kill and to do it with no remorse or regret (desensitization) as in the definition of an assassin. It is obvious to me now that Satan is the direct controller behind these games although I doubt that most of the creators of these games are actually aware of that. To them it is simply making a lot of money, also with the same lack of remorse or regret for what they have wrought. The most serious aspect of all of this for me is that even after 8 years or so of having not played these games, and also having received Jesus as my Lord and Saviour, I cannot say that the effects of those games are totally gone. I still have desensitized "knee jerk" reactions at times to news events and other happenings that I can readily say are not a proper Christian response. I always then find myself in a repentant prayer to the Lord. I also ask Him every day, often many times in a day to create in me a clean and a new heart and to make a right spirit in me. I thank God so very much for the gift of His most beloved Son. How so desperately I need His hand upon me, literally moment to moment!
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"Both of these games were positively created for the sole purpose of "training" people how to kill"
It's true. I've played both Half-Life games, and I've already prevented 3 alien invasions with a crowbar.
"Also, during the various sequences and levels of the games, music, often with "Satan's beat" (the heavy base beat you hear coming out of many cars going down the road) would be playing in the background."
Oh noes! Not teh rhythm!
"Both of these games were positively created for the sole purpose of "training" people how to kill and to do it with no remorse or regret (desensitization) as in the definition of an assassin."
That's true. I played a lot of Doom when I was a kid, and now I'm a professional assassin. The money's good, but I have no dental plan :(
<I>"Rise of the Triad"</I>
Hey, my name's from that game. Also, funny how that game involves killing cultists and trying to stop their leader from destroying the world, as fundies are quite similar to cultists.
-I. P. Freeley
"Both of these games were positively created for the sole purpose of "training" people how to kill and to do it with no remorse or regret (desensitization) as in the definition of an assassin."
Just like World of Warcraft was meant to people into dwarven warriors and Super Mario Bros. was meant to turn us into mushroom popping plumbers. Well...I guess I'm off to play Leisure Suit Larry...[wink wink wink]
ugh *facepalm*
My friends ALL play video games, they were obsessed with CS for a while, but now one of them is obbssesed with...um, what's it called... Team Fortress 2?? I dunno, I don't like those shoot-em-up games, I'm more a Zelda kind of girl (and i TOTALLY kick ass at it! I could beat ANYBODY!! lol) ... what was I saying?? oh yeah
But yeah, he plays that silly game and he doesn't run around trying to set people on fire, thinks he's invisible and yells "MEDIC" whenever he hurts himself... oh... wait.... :-P
Jack Thompson, is that you?
Also, video games don't incite violence. Right-wing shock jocks like Savage and Limbaugh do.
Rise of the Triad...
This mild-mannered translator fondly remembers the fun he had playing this, in god mode, with Extreme Killer Gibs (yup, body parts flying everywhere)... When you're really angry, going on a virtual rampage is a great catharsis.
In fact, I think I'll load it up, just for fun...
Video games don't usually make people violent. Reason being, most people can tell the difference between make-believe and reality. I might love ripping people in half and beating them to a bloody pulp in God of War, but that doesn't mean I ever get the urge to do anything violent in real life. Nothing wrong with having a bit of a guilty pleasure every now and then, as long as you're mature enough to handle it (and you're 50, for crying out loud!).
..it's...a...fucking...GAME.
You know, as in, fantasy, not real, made up...kinda like that religion thing.
"Both of these games were positively created for the sole purpose of "training" people how to kill and to do it with no remorse or regret (desensitization) as in the definition of an assassin."
Hell yeah, whenever Satan's (or John Romero's) minions come through portals on mars, invade earth from spaceships, or crawl form the hellgate to sow destruction on the world, I'll be ready for em. Ready to kick ass and chew bubblegum, and by that time, I'll be all out of bubblegum.
"...I don't think these games are even around anymore as the so called "graphics" would be too slow and antiquated for the most up-to-date "modern gamer." "
And yet, I still play with my SNES. Some of us like retro gaming, and I'll thank you not to presume to speak for all "modern gamers". (Also: stop "abusing" "the" "poor" "quotation" "marks", "for" "fuck's" "sake", "you" "dumbshit".)
"...How so desperately I need His hand upon me, literally moment to moment!"
You call us gamers sick and disturbed--and yet, you want God to fondle you. Constantly.
I've been playing such games since I was three and my faith was unaffected. Not only that, but using scapegoats is wrong and playing Supreme Commander on your PC won't help improve your aim with a gun or train you to kill.
You people always make stupid assertions. Jack Thompson would be your friend.
How so desperately I need His hand upon me, literally moment to moment!
Hmmm, been doing "other" stuff on the computer as well I see.
I've played all of the GTA's, have all the Silent Hill and Resident Evil series, completed both Manhunts, Condemned and Fall of Man, and I'm currently working my way through the Call of Duty games I didn't get around to finishing. I don't want to rip your arms off and stab you in the eye, Dennis. Grow up, get a grip, and learn to fun.
I still play with my old Sega Genesis, just for Mortal Kombat. How I wish they'd hurry up and port the Saturn to PSP. It'd give me something to do on the way to work.
'I don't think these games are even around anymore as the so called "graphics" would be too slow and antiquated for the most up-to-date "modern gamer."'
Shows exactly how intelligent you are and how much research you have put int your arguments. Speaking as a person who has a sizable collection of old games dating as far back as the 1980s, and a collector of freeware abandonware, I hereby dub you a complete idiot.
"Games were positively created for the sole purpose of "training" people how to kill and to do it with no remorse or regret (desensitization) as in the definition of an assassin"
Then why do some games e.g. Neverwinter Nights 2 have systems which allow you to avoid fighting by talking your way out of it, and why do I use them. Also, why do the best seeming rewards in many RPG style games come from taking the "good" choice. You need to do more research, not just make assumptions.
I play roguelikes.
Not much in the way of graphics (here's a Rorschach: @ &&&& - do you feel threatened?), but the games are in constant development.
That said, if you're looking for some corruption, most games just don't cut it. Almost all of them are actually very soft when it comes to truly disturbing images. Leda and the Swan, on the other hand, is quite interesting. Ancient zoophilia. Christian tales tell of Jesus being tortured, at length, with an entire array of instruments - paintings, poems, plays and whatnot have been used to express the gruesome task, one of the latest being the movie The Passion of Christ. Others had and have a penchant for depicting human suffering by painting and otherwise expressing Hellish landscapes, such as Hieronymus Bosch. The list goes on and on...
I'm more of a Resident Evil and Silent Hill kinda girl myself, but Doom ain't bad.
Yeah, the video games are what cause the unhappy thoughts. It couldn't have anything to do with the particular little death cult you've aligned yourself with, could it? You know, the one that causes you to feel sorrow and guilt for enjoying anything.
Both of these games were positively created for the sole purpose of "training" people how to kill...
Uh, no. They were created with the purpose of making money and entertaining. Any other possible results were NOT what was intended. Besides, you could play all the violent video games you want, and still have no idea how to do the same thing in real life. As Yahtzee Crosshaw put it:
"Pressing buttons to shoot guns in, say, Soldier of Fortune is about as far removed from the workings of actual guns as my ass is from the dark side of Europa..."
Can someone please make a list of "proper christian response"s to every day situations? I really think it would be usefull :).
Also, true gamer would never destroy the game, except by "accident". And what's with the depression in the last sentence? Dude, you either take too many or too few medicaments. Please adjust your therapy.
"(His rescue, not my doing)"
I was just walking down the street, thinking evil scientifical like thoughts, and this giant, invisible creator of the universe pulled me into an alley and had His way with me, and glad I was of it, too. Never been the same since. Never had another evil thought, nor any other kind, so there. Got this little crystal in the back of my neck and I'm a happy camper.
Kind of like playing Fowl Words turned me on to how much fun it is to stuff an egg UP a chicken's butt. Or how playing Dope Wars made me a drug lord with a stable of bitches. Not to mention the fact that Sims taught me how to get rid of annoying acquaintances by luring them to repair a computer while standing in a puddle of water. Hey Dennis, my TV is on the fritz, are you handy with a screwdriver?
Satan created video games. Well, then he sounds like a pretty cool guy.
You're probably just mad because you and your sons couldn't get past level one.
So, a game that advocates and promotes the wholesale slaughter of DEMONS FROM HELL in order to protect god's creation and favorite pets is a bad thing? I thought these guys were all 'sword in my hand, boot in your ass, gonna smite me up some devil scum!'
I don't see why I'm at all surprised though, these people cant even manage to be good people *all by themselves*, needing god to *make* them be good. Worse, they cant even be good people just for the sake of being good people, it can *only* be for god.
So called "graphics". Holy crap.
Y'know, I wonder what these guys would say about the more very-kiddy-orientated games like Banjo-Kazooie and Spyro.
"OMG! ANTHROPOMORPHIC ANIMALS PROMOTE EVILOOTION!"
"GOD SAVE ME! THE MAIN CHARACTER IS SATAN THE DRAGON!"
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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