[On the Dr Tiller killing]
Christ was a hothead. He would have offed this prick himself if he had the chance.
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Are you referring to the Same Jesus that laid down his life for his enemies? Taught us to Love our Neighbor, our enemy, and everyone?
The Doctor's life is as important as those of the unborn children.
...uh, are we thinking of the same Jesus here?
'cause the biblical one was the definition of nonviolent pacifism.
PASSION OF THE CHRIST II
CRUCIFY THIS!
Yeah, that Jesus boy was the real man who'da popped a cap in 'is ass right dere.
Yeah, I'm sure that's exactly what he'd do.
For a fictional character, he was kinda hippy-ish. He was also kinda schizophrenic. I guess having so many autobiograhpers will do that to a myth. I'm thinking of the disrespect he showed Mary, telling folks to hate their parents; bring his enemies before him & slay them...yadda, yadda.
Yeah, I mean, Jesus said it himself, "Do unto other before they do it unto you."
Which bible have you been reading? Christ was a very calm, serene guy. The only thing angering him was people making money in the house of God. But that is one thing you guys have never cherry-picked, strangely enough...
Yup, Jesus Christ, son of Tetragrammaton, far worse than Megatron.
More sadness from the topix thread:
Ole tiller probably didnt have any children but rather he murdered tme before they were born and put them in a glas jar where he would look at them and burst into maniacal fits of laughter on a daily basis.
And then he later probably cooked them and ate them.
Give you a shiny new penny if you can guess who uttered this "gem." (If you answer "AverageWhiteGuy" you've won!)
Which Christ was this? The one that uttered, Blessed are the meek, turn the other cheek, stuff like that? Surely you can't be referring to that Christ.
Well, the first clue that this man is an idiot is that he used his name as his alias, so I don't think I nor anyone else should even heed what this guy has to say. He's too stupid to know what Jesus preached.
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Meh, I don't go for this Jesus-was-a-hippie stuff. Some things attributed to him are a bit Buddhist, yeah, but other stuff makes him sound like a bit of a nutter. That business with the Temple moneychangers, for instance. And the fig tree. And the whole hating your parents thing.
Maybe you get a different perspective on him when you were taught nothing about him except that he wasn't the Messiah, just a very naughty boy.
I like John Prine's The Missing Years album to explain Jesus from age 18 to 33: divorced, unemployed, homeless, father of a kid with Mary Magdeline...
When one of the Apostles cut off a centurion's ear, didn't Jesus reattach it to the centurion?
That's hardly the action of someone who would "off" someobody.
And, yeah, Jesus chased the moneychangers out of the Temple, but that passage says nothing about him "offing" any of them. (I wonder how themegachurches that have their own gift shops rationalize that passage away)
Oh, and wouldn't Jesus have had the opportunity to "off" Dr. Tiller up in Heaven before he got shot? Christians do believe he continues to live in Heaven, right?
Man, there's a whole lot of confused thinking in just that one sentence.
@Nathan the Wise
Oh I agree. But according to the bible since when did people go round killing people he didn't agree with? Those powers he had: Didn't he make wine and bring people back from the dead?
It's more what he said that bothers me "I didn't come to bring peace" etc.
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/sword.html
You have obviously confused Jesus' alter-ego, "The Christ" with Johnny Storm's alter-ego, "The Human Torch". Believing that you live in a comic book universe full of demons and super heroes can do that to a person.
@ Spaceamoeba:
I'm not agreeing with the OP; I don't think the Jesus portrayed in the Gospels would have gone for offing people he didn't like. (Even if the woman taken in adultery is a provably later addition, it was added as in illustration of the kind of thing they believed Jesus would have done, IMO).I just don't think he was, as portrayed, the meek-and-mild hippie type some people seem to think. Guy had a temper, if you ask me. The sword thing you link to is one of the things I was referring to.
Meh, I don't care anyway. I'm a Jewish atheist, after all.
The OP is absolutely right!!
"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her motherinlaw a man's enemies will be the members of his own household."
"Early in the morning, as he was on his way back to the city, he was hungry. Seeing a fig tree by the road, he went up to it but found nothing on it except leaves. Then he said to it, 'May you never bear fruit again!' Immediately the tree withered."
Seeing that about a third of children died "naturally" before the age of three (thanks to no medicine, i.e. science) God himself was the ultimate extremely-late-term abortionist back then. But hey, don't let facts... etc.
A little Off Topic here:
That whacky Jebus and the whole money lenders stunt. From what I understand, yahweh (ie Jebus and/or Jebus daddy) didn't like foreign currency (probably another abomination) and it couldn't be donated to his temple. So, the moneylenders were doing what yahweh said - taking foreign currency and chaning it into acceptable hebrew shekels that could be donated, used to by acceptable sacrifices, etc.
So, when Junior came in and started wrecking things that he / daddy had set up in the first place - it kinda stretches the bounds of credulity.
@ Tindalos
Yes, but you see, the money changers were offering an unfavorable rate of exchange. Strangely, no one asked where they got the buckets of Sheckels they were trading, or what they were charged for them by the Rabbis. No one asked what they had to pay to the Roman soldiers for "protection". Makes a much neater story if 'ol Jebus just trounces them for being dishonest. Goes to show what happens when you get your world view from people who couldn't count past their fingers and toes.
"If he had the chance"?
Um, isn't Jesus GOD? So in theory he DOES have the chance, being all powerful. Yet Jesus didn't kill Tiller.
So either God doesn't exist, or you're wrong about what Jesus would have done.
Actually it's both.
You'd think he'd off those guys that nailed him up then. And you'd think the Bible would be full of Segal-worthy quotes from Jesus if,,, oh forget it you stupid idiot
@ smartz
'Jesus was a hot head'. Fucks up the Prince of peace crap. He's up there with Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Henry VIII, etc.
Explain how the son of God or God, has these Human attributes.... Oh hang on.....
No shit Curt. Jesus is a CRAZY mutha. One time we was just chillin' down at Jimmy G's and in comes some guy sporting like a yarmulke. Jesus had a few beers in him, and just starts bitching about how the Jews killed him, and I'm like, "Christ...chill, man. That was like two-thousand years ago. Lets go hit a spliff" and Jesus was like, "No, man. This SHIT ends NOW!" and he just flips out and starts overturning tables and shit, screaming the whole time about moneylenders and Judas and stuff. He tore that place up before the po' rolled up. The moral of the story is don't rile Jesus. Seriously. That dude is a maniac.
No, Curtis ole' boy. You are the hothead. You are the one who would've liked to have shot Dr. Tiller but, thankfully, are too much of a coward to do anything but spout off Internet Tough Guy talk on what has to be one of the biggest trolldumps on the net.
If he had the chance? Isn't God, and therefore also Jesus, omnipotent and omnipresent? If he DIDN'T have the chance to off a Doctor curing women who would otherwise have died along with their fetuses, then he isn't omnipotent.
(I've probably already answered, but I haven't got the energy to search trough four pages, it's too darn hot! We've had tropical nights for a week now, I'm soon becoming a Global Warmingist...)
There is a Juniper bush that crossed Jesus and paid for it.
This guys about two sentences away from comparing Jesus to Elric of Melbourn, I'm betting.
@Quantum Mechanic
Like you would know.
Didn't he heal someone when the soldiers came to arrest him? One of his disciples attacked a soldier, Jesus healed the soldier and scolded the disciple, as the soldier wasn't responsible for the warrant for his arrest. Something like that, right?
Confused?
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