David J. Stewart #fundie

David J. Stewart #fundie jesusisprecious.org

A space shuttle is composed of approximately 2,500,000 parts! (see below quote). If one part fails, like the rubber O-ring seal did on the shuttle Challenger in 1986, it's all over!

That's why I make such a fuss over the little changes here-and-there to the Holy Bible. In fact, professor Gail Riplinger identified 64,000 changes made in the New International Version (NIV) as compared to the trustworthy King James Bible. Do you think removing the word “begotten” from John 3:16 isn't as deadly as a faulty O-ring on the space shuttle Challenger?

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old comment by dxdydz

The O-ring that failed was never part of the Challenger shuttle. It was in one of the solid rocket boosters that was supposed to aid in the shuttle's ascent. It's ironic that he's trying to argue for something to be accurate and he can't even get his facts straight, but then again, David has never cared much for facts.

Furthermore, something in a rocket can fail and the mission can still be successful. Modern rocket engines are designed with backup sensors, valves, pumps, cooling systems, etc. when applicable to help deal with primary system failures. This makes his analogy quite terrible. There have also been many instances in space exploration where important systems have failed and there was still huge success to be had:

Apollo 13 had a major oxygen leak and the crew still managed to fly around the Moon and come home after jury rigging an adapter for a CO₂ scrubber.

Gravity Probe B's gyroscopes were not working properly and this required some serious error analysis to be preformed on its data. The probe verified the existence of geodetic effect and frame-dragging as predicted by the theory of general relativity.

Galileo was still able to transmit data after its high-gain antenna failed to open correctly.

Skylab's micrometeoroid shield detached and tore away a solar array, made it so another array couldn't open, and took away the thermal shield which was meant to reduce solar heating. The first crew aboard the station had to manually unfold the remaining solar array and put a reflective shroud over the station to prevent overheating.

We all remember how Hubble was saved when it got its corrective lenses.

Kepler had a reaction wheel failure four years after its mission started. The failure was accommodated for by using solar radiation pressure to help control the crafts attitude and maintain focus. Although Kepler lost track of its intended target it was able to successfully gather data in other parts of the sky.

Spirit had a wheel failure and engineers worked around it by driving the rover backwards.

And those are just the ones I know of, there are definitely many more.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

British programmer Jeff Minter coded up a Space Shuttle simulator, once.

He discovered that, with a few changes, it could re-enter & land using a little less fuel. He contacted NASA about this, enquiring as to if it would actually work. Their scientists, engineers etc ran his figures through computer simulations, and it worked.

It was tried in a later mission: it worked.

Those changes were added to the Space Shuttle training manuals. Use of bad analogy. Your argument is invalid, Davey-boy.

...oh, and like Jeff Minter - who made changes to Shuttle operations for the better - the authoriser of your KJV was gay. [/Jerky]

Things couldn't be worse if a Llama had made changes to your Bible, DJS.

"My aim is to produce games that have graphics and audio that will rape your eyeballs and take your ears from behind with a strap-on"

-Jeff Minter

...how about that for a mindfuck?!

old comment by Taln_Reich

In fact, professor Gail Riplinger identified 64,000 changes made in the New International Version (NIV) as compared to the trustworthy King James Bible.

And on what basis do you judge the KJV as more trustworthy? What makes this particular Version so special?

Do you think removing the word “begotten” from John 3:16 isn't as deadly as a faulty O-ring on the space shuttle Challenger?

I don't think it's even deadly at all. I mean, can you even construct a hypothetical scenario where it would be deadly?

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I really don't get KJV-Onlynism. I mean, the King James Version was harldy sent down directly from heaven on golden Tablets. It was translated from the original text by well educated scolars who where trying to do their best. They were mortal men, who probably would have seen claims that they wre somehow divinely inspired as presumptious, if not outright heretical. Seriously, if you argue about versions, the only right thing to do would be to learn the language of the original text and work from these.

old comment by checkmate

the trustworthy King James Bible

The Septuaginta, the early translation of the Old Testament into (very easy to read) Koine Greek is called the "Septuaginta" (= "70") because a legend claims that 72 Hebrew scholars translated the Tora in 72 days, each one totally independent from the others, and that all 72 came up with the exact same translation, down to the last jota. This supposedly meant that the translation was of divine origin.

Brother David would, of course, like all of us, dismiss this as silly nonsense. On the other hand, David claims more or less the same for his beloved KJV. Laugh at one legend, support another, which is equally as silly? Leave it to Brother David.

David J. Stewart #fundie jesusisprecious.org

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