I read a comment by a lady before writing this that says schools are for learning and not indoctrination. It is interesting because that is exactly what the humanist are using schools for. to indoctrinate our children with the Humanist doctrine. that there is no god, that we all came from monkeys. If it feels good do it. The least these schools can do is show both sides of the argument instead of showing there own side.
also there is no such thing as separation of church and state in the constitution.
Whenever there is a school shooting, I love how people like to say, "where was god" well my friends, you have banned god from the schools.
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What about omnipotence?
NATURE OF GOD FAIL.
ToE doesn't say anything about how life began, just how it evolved.
People say "where was god" whenever they get a baby born with genetic defects, yet they go ballistic over abortion...go figure.
"It is interesting because that is exactly what the humanist are using schools for. to indoctrinate our children with the Humanist doctrine."
Yes, how dare they teach our kids to value other human beings and respect mankind's achievements instead of making them kneel on broomsticks and praise the lord all day.
"also there is no such thing as separation of church and state in the constitution."
You guys can twist words to try to make this lie into truth all you want, but however you word it, our constitution clearly states that the government is forbidden to promote ANY religion (and no, learning about the different religions in school is NOT promoting them. Teaching that YOUR god created everything as though it is a scientific theory, IS).
"Whenever there is a school shooting, I love how people like to say, "where was god" well my friends, you have banned god from the schools."
I usually hear people say things like "where were the parents" or something of that nature, so I don't know what the hell you're talking about. And why do you guys think that god can be "banned" from anything? Why is your god so helpless against our laws? Doesn't sound like much of a god to me.
I've never asked, after any tragedy, "where was god." You know why? Because god doesn't exist. The answer to that question, in good times and bad, is always the same: nowhere.
Whenever there is a school shooting, I love how people like to say, "where was god"
Does anyone else get a creepy feeling that this guy "loves" whenever there's a school shooting?
>that there is no god, that we all came from monkeys. If it feels good do it.
Well, at least you were one for three, but the second is typical fundie garbage, and I'm not even sure where the hell you got the third.
well my friends, you have banned god from the schools
So much for the whole "omnipotent and omnipresent" thing.
"Whenever there is a school shooting, I love how people like to say, "where was god" well my friends, you have banned god from the schools."
And a omnipotent god is powerless against a ban.
Tiller was shot in a church. Not long ago, a pastor was shot in a church. Where is your argument on that shit you fuck? Word for word it isn't there, but it does say no one religion over another (Congress shall make no law endorising a religion). Whoops. Churches are used for indoctrination as well
There aren't two sides to be taught on the issue of your god, there are billions. Arguably one for every religious person who has ever existed.
There are no sides to the issue of [G/g]od in schools, though. Reality has been observed, and that's what public schooling is based on. God has not been observed as part of reality, and so has no place where science is being taught.
Now, religion aside, concerning political indoctrination I rather agree with you, though the word indoctrination may be a bit strong for the most of it. Only most. Too many teachers are touting their opinions above the course materials, including not only liberal teachers but also conservative ones. The U.S. public school system was created to have informed voters so that the democracy might function, not as a stage from which to spread your opinions.
Whenever there is a school shooting, I love how people like to say, "where was god" well my friends, you have banned god from the schools.
God(s) is/are not banned from schools, public or private. Students are free to silently pray to themselves, and form groups that are not endorsed by the school systems (in the case of public institutions).
hearing every side of the issue is great, fine, whatever.
however, you keep talking about this "both sides" thing like there are two sides. no one is going to teach what the scientific community has known to be total shit for hundreds of years.
can you imagine a science class where after the teacher finishes his lesson he has some required second lesson.
Correlation does not imply causation.
Aggh! Yes there is a clause in the constitution where the government is seperate from religion.
Also, what about the December 9, 2007 shooting at a Megachurch once headed by Ted Haggard and the missionary training school nearby?
Yup, and Earth is circular or spherical. And insects have four legs, or six. And bats are birds or mammals. Why don't we teach both theories? Why don't we let the children decide in which one they want to believe?
Congress shall make no law respecting Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.
I'm pretty sure that's a separation of church and state.
"Humanism is a broad category of ethical philosophies that affirm the dignity and worth of all people, based on the ability to determine right and wrong by appealing to universal human qualities, particularly rationality, without resorting to the supernatural or alleged divine authority from religious texts." Wikipedia
I feel that Humanism is noble.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/tx/5587616.html
EMORY, Texas Stunned high school students returned to campus Monday after three of their classmates and another man were arrested in the weekend massacre of an admired family.
Classmates and Emory residents have said the girl previously had been homeschooled.
"well my friends, you have banned god from the schools."
Your god is a pussy.
also there is no such thing as separation of church and state in the constitution.
Article VI:
[...] no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.
Amendment I:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof[.]
You still claim there is no such thing as separation of church (religion) and state (government) in the Constitution?
I love how people like to say, "where was god" well my friends, you have banned god from the schools.
LOL
At least he spelled "separation" correctly. Yay.
"Whenever there is a school shooting, I love how people like to say, "where was god" well my friends, you have banned god from the schools."
Yep and as we all know, once you ban God from the schools, He and all His omnipotence and omnipresence can never enter them. I guess they can be used not only as fallout shelters, but "God's wrath" shelters as well.
When did this whole "there is no separation of church and state" business start up amongst fundies? I thought the common trope was using separation of church and state to justify their cries of being persecuted. Maybe they just realized that didn't work...either way, there is separation of church and state, no matter what they want to believe.
If it feels good, do it? Damn, damn, damn. Somebody's been messing with my copy of the Humanist Manifesto.
Actually, school shootings occur in places where evolution is questioned. In Europe, where it´s not, they´re virtually inexistant. And yes, when you have a Christian School..............indoctrination, anybody?
The Humanists are using the schools for teaching the kids to think for themselves. TEH HORROR!!!
There is only one side of scientific evolution.
There is Separation of Church and State in other founding documents. And there is freedom of/from religion in the Constituion.
Funnily enough, America, which is one of the most overtly Christian countries in the world, probably has had more school shootings than all non-war coutries, combined.
School shootings have been going on in the US since 1764.
Thank you for admitting that your 'God' never existed, then.
No school shootings in the UK's entire history up to 1996. No school shootings in the UK since 1996. We have a state religion, the Church of England. No US Constitution required. Explain, please?
Also, Japan. No school shootings there. Thank you for admitting that the Shinto Sun Goddess Amaterasu does exist, then; also Kwannon: the Goddess of Mercy .
Confused?
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