[About an anti-bullying conference at Humboldt, Iowa, making courses deemed inappropriate]
Anti-bullying has ALWAYS (for the last 20 years or so) been about advancing sexual perversion in the schools.
If we had MORE bullying of perverts in training, we’d have far fewer messed up people in this world
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I echo Paler_Face's sentiment. I was bullied and, considering I am and always have been straight, it was NEVER about "sexual perversion" as you put it. It was because I was timid, intelligent and seen as an easy target.
Until I started to stand up for myself.
So yeah, fuck you and the bully-apologist horse in on which you rode.
`K then, I`ll personally be instructing my kids to attack and harras religious children or maybe it`ll be the overwheight violent retards, whose personal mental deragements and self-guilt might be the only things bigger than their neckbeard.
Had to lash, sometimes I simply can`t wrap my head around their social blindness.
We must start doing something serious about the bullying and by that I mean start looking into and giving a hand to the bullies themselves. Aside from a few sociopaths almost no dedicated bully ever had a normal life him/herself, if it`s not being in the deep and dark closet yourself, then it`s abusive home or some misguided ideals and I believe untill we start helping everybody here, bullies included we can`t ever make this problem go away. Lets say I know this from personal experience. Some kids will be hiding their pain behind silence or hip clothes, others by raiding all the booze they can get their hands on and/or getting aggresive to everything considered "not me and my posse".
"If we had MORE bullying of perverts in training, we’d have far fewer messed up people in this world"
That's why I bully fundies.
If we had MORE bullying of perverts in training, we’d have far fewer messed up people in this world
Because they would all commit suicide - if we accept LGBT teens are "perverts in training" and their adult counterparts are "messed up people."
Conservatives aren't even trying to pretend to be nice any more. When they advocate bullying, they've officially gone around the bend.
BTW, I was bullied too, not for being gay (I'm not) but like Oxymoron's Razor for being timid, intelligent and basically an easy target because I always thought fighting was stupid. But please tell me how being bullied made my life better.
Thirding Pale Face's sentiment. Was bullied for being a geek, for 'dressing like a prep' when I went to a generally lower income school, for 'being out of style' when I ended up at a higher income school, for being a goth (before Columbine. After, people were scared of quiet people in the back of the class dressed in black...)... hell, I didn't accept my own orientation until college, and by then no one cared.
So, where was the sexual perversion in there? Or the pervert training? Only training I got out of it was how to unnerve bullies enough that they wanted nothing to do with you. And a bit of punching practice.
Speaking of, has anyone ever noticed that many bullies are rather bad at actually fighting? Or was that just back in my day?
...and now the bullies are themselves being bullied by Political Correctness, ensuring that you no longer have the right to bully others who have the temerity to dare to not be exactly like you, now you know how it feels to be a soft target, you inferior subhuman.
I hope you get everything you more -than deserve now little Johnnie. Because you're asking for it.
"Bullies Being Bullied". That'd make for perfect actuality TV. I'd pay good money to see that; PPV. Gaybashers being tortured [/"Hostel"] >:D
...what, don't like that, o bullies? Well, now you know how you sound. Can't take it, what makes you think you have the right to even think of dishing it out in the first place? [/Sauce for the Goose]
And yet, when you disagree with them, fundies are the first to complain about being bullied. More evidence, if any were needed, of the mentality of the bully.
@nazani14
But still, plenty end up as convicts and general losers.
@Azereaux
Lots of bullies are actually quite bad at fighting. It's fear that they use mostly.
I beat the crap out of a couple of bullies who were too stupid to realise that I was not the victim type, despite the shyness, geekiness, lack of skill at football, addiction to Dungeons & Dragons and mostly misfit friends.
Good grief, not all victims are gay. No-one should have to put up with years of abuse because of some factor that playground bully takes exception to. The mental scarring formed by such trauma caused by bullying is very real; it's a shame that you seem to disregard so readily.
You don't disregard it when you whine about the persecuted Christian fallacy though, do you? You wouldn't like it if I was to dismiss any legitimate claims as character building and a necessity to lead people away from their delusions.
"If we had MORE bullying of perverts in training, we’d have far fewer messed up people in this world"
Yet many fundies would have us seriously believe that homosexuality is a result of abuse, particularly of a sexual nature. There seems to be a bit of a contradiction here.
Also, I have ginger hair. In the UK that seems to be stigmatised by some immature dolts, especially amongst those of a school age. I had to put up with idiots calling names, being violent and other forms of abuse because of it, especially amongst those in other years that didn't know me. How dare you insinuate that bulling is character building for the victim! Tosser!
I'm with @Paler_Face on this one. I was bullied because I enjoyed books and video games, was thin and wouldn't fight back.
"If we had MORE bullying of perverts in training, we’d have far fewer messed up people in this world"
What? No. I'm fairly certain that I have something wrong with me thanks to the ostracization and constant mockery that your ilk, for I'm certain that you were a bully, visited upon me. How can you sit there and advocate the torment of people for being who they are?
You disgust me.
@Yossarian Lives
My Geography teacher at school, Mr. Stevenson -Scottish, from Glasgow - had the gingerest hair one could imagine.
But he was the best teacher one could hope to have, was always with a joke, pun or quip - he had an inexhaustible supply of such - and made lessons fun . He was the first ginger-haired person I'd met.
I have never had a problem with ginger-haired people. To this day, I've never understood the whole 'discrimination' thing against them & the likes of your good self. So they have a different hair colour? Big deal.
"Anti-bullying has ALWAYS (for the last 20 years or so) been about advancing sexual perversion in the schools."
Prove it. Prove how anti-bullying has ALWAYS "advanced sexual perversion in the schools". Prove it or shut the fuck up.
And as you're advocating MORE bullying, ok, we'll start with you, you sad, strange little man.
As a former bullying victim, I dare say you should be shipped to the Island of Doom I wish to ship all bullies and bully advocates to, where horrible things I haven't decided on yet will be performed on thee.
@Spuki: Why would you be bullied? You're wonderful!
@Moose: My hair's probably more ginger than his.
If you fight back -- every time -- you don't have to be able to defeat the bully. He'll soon enough get the message and look for more passive targets. Because even the winner of a fight is likely to be hurt, which takes the fun out of it for him.
And sometimes the victim wins! Until I was 13 I was the favorite go-to guy of a neighborhood bully. At that point, in response to a deliberate provocation, I zoned out and beat the ever-loving snot out of him. Marked him up and bloodied him so badly that his mother accused my dad of doing it. "You can't tell me a boy did this ..." I was never, ever, bothered by the guy again.
Bot whether you lose or win a confrontation with a bully, the realization that you'll fight is a strong deterrent.
@ Old Viking :
People like the OP are the reason why I spent most of my school days wanting to bring a gun to school. Luckily enough I never got to the point of doing it, though sometimes I think it might have been better when compared with the years of hell I went through.
And no, fighting back doesn't always work. Trust me, I know. It is, however, an excellent way to get in trouble with the authorities.
@Moose-sama:
Neither have I, and it was one of the things that confused me whenever some kid made something of it. Fortunately, the bullying I received wasn't as tough as what others had to deal with. As to be expected, it was the kids with special needs that got the worst of it, especially those that didn't know how to cope with it. There was one autistic kid at my school who would be chased by idiots every dinner break with his tormentors screaming bang at him (this was a trigger, as it was rumoured that his granddad died in the army). Unfortunately, I heard from a mate that he still has to deal with the bullies from my school (it's been 6 years since he would have finished) and he was hospitalised after one of them beat him up as he walked down a busy road, all because he flicked a rude hand gesture when they said hi to him in a sarcastic tone.
I never have and never will understand the merciless bullying of those that are different, making many people's lives miserable when they're already difficult.
As someone who used to be bullied intermittently, let me just say this:
Fuck you with a rusty chainsaw.
Was bullied a bit in middle school, basically because I was the quiet kid who tried to stay out of the way. Not the physical kind of bullying tho. Until the bully threw a paper ball at me (Yes, I know, "that's all?". First time he got physical after only emotional abuse, straw and the camel's back, only 12 years old...). So, I picked it up and threw it back at him, then walked away. He came after me, got me in a headlock, and tried to pound my face in. Got out of the lock, shoved him against a locker, and continued walking away. The next period, I was asked by several people if I was okay, my face was all red, "I heard about the fight", etc... I responded truthfully that I was not in any pain, he hadn't hurt me, and I had no bruising to show for his efforts.
@Scratch, Loner and Paler_Face
Ditto, doubly so. I too was bullied because... I was different. A skinny, well-read bookworm far too weak to stand up to the stupid jocks harassing me in gangs.
Still can't seem to be able to have a long-term relationship (at fifty, fer crissakes!), party I think because of scars left by bullying in a high school with barely any discipline, scars eight therapists in 35 years have been unable to heal enough to matter.
Bullying can fucking destroy lives. And so, John O, let me tell you this : I'm too compassionate (a Christian virtue, no?) to wish you the kind of fate bullying can lead to, as it's far too cruel for anyone. Loner's wish is downright lenient in comparison.
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