David, welcome and thanks for jumping in!
I have a position here that is not liked very well at all. I believe that the girls, when they dress immodestly, set a trap for men. When that trap is sprung, the girl becomes somewhat responsible for the man's thoughts as though she had participated in the act of adultery.
Ladies, this is why it is so incredibly important that you dress modestly and do not call attention to your body! Your purity, your ABSOLUTE purity is a treasure you must save for your husband.
RR
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The passage is telling the woman to not draw attention to themselves, but to the Lord. - Bro. Randy
We humans are as natural naked as any other mammal but we should hide ourselves in deference to your imaginary deity. If we don't we can expect rape.
Thanks, Randy, for reminding me why I should rail against you fundies.
So somehow, men are extraordinarily weak in comparison to women, because they can so easily be "trapped" by nothing more than a woman wearing shorts. And yet you consider it true that men ought to be dominant over women? How does that work?
Bro, it's the part you don't understand. If a person is partially responsible for what other person does, it's not sin anymore. Because you're admitting that one of the two has no free will, and you debunk the whole ethic issue. Adultery has only to do with married people or, to put in OT language, MARRIED WOMEN. So, if they're not married and they have no desire whatsoever for the man who's looking, it's the whole fucking man's business, not theirs. Otherwise, you're saying that that poor idiot is an animal incapable of controlling his urges. And don't expect Dave to make it more popular, you simply have no reason on your side.
Randy, you misogynistic piece of shit, the biggest mistake you're making here is that rape is any way, shape or form about sex. It's about power and domination over another person; it doesn't matter how the person is dressed. Old ladies in their nightgowns get raped, Muslim women in burkas get raped, babies get raped. It doesn't fucking matter what you're wearing.
Pauline:
Andrea Dworkin, though nominally a Lefty, was a psychotic moralist with precious little separating her from the fundies of the Right. If anything, she and Bro. Randy would probably get along disturbingly well.
BrianX, have you actually read anything by Andrea Dworkin, or are you just regurgitating anti-feminist ignorance that you think is norm because you've been hearing "everyone else" say it?
Oh yeah, and Bro. Randy can die for being a rapist - I mean, rape apologist.
Ms Demeanor:
I really have no love for extremists of any stripe. No matter what their intent, they subvert themselves by making their message undesirable by association, sort of like what the Bush administration (as well as numerous prior US presidencies) is doing to the reputation of Western democracy around the world.
While people like Betty Friedan and Gloria Steinem were working to bring equal rights to women, people like Dworkin were pushing a view that seemed designed as much to crush mens' spirits as it was to advance women's rights.
Extremists tend to treat their pet causes as zero-sum games. I believe that Dworkin's views on feminism took that tack. I'm aware that sexism is still a major problem in society, and while I know I have a few issues I like to think that I at least try to do the right thing. But I can support animal rights and despise PeTA, so there's no reason I can't be pro-feminist and anti-Dworkin as well.
...Please don't breed. I beg of you Randy, please don't breed.
Messr/Miss caitshidhe, might I subscribe to thy newletter? I enjoy your religious writings.
1) Why, oh why, do the men in the fundie worldview never have to answer for their own thoughts and actions? Just because you see someone attractive, does not mean you have to sit there and fantasize about bonking them. That's a personal choice and not the attractive person's fault.
2) Why is Randy not calling the males to save their ABSOLUTE PURITY for their wives? The Bible calls for abstinence until marriage from women AND men. It says fornication is a sin for both genders. Funny how sexist fundies seem to always forget that.
Why do males never have to watch their style of dress, lest they tempt a woman? We women *do* have sex drives and can get turned on by a guy in a sexy outfit, y'know. I know it pains you fundies to accept that women have thoughts and feelings and sexuality, but we do nonetheless.
Bro. Randy is a bitter misogynist and a creepy weirdo. I weep that he is influencing silly young teens who don't know any better. I weep even more when I think about what some of his other 'habits' with these innocent teens might be.
the same excuse as Adam "the woman beguiled me". He got his ass kicked tho' so even Bro Randy's imaginary friend doesn't hold with such shilly-shallying.
Wake up peabrain - everybody is responsible for their own actions!
In all seriousness I have to admit this, I have a thing for modestly dressed girls. Fake Nun porn is one of my favourite things, Lilith from Cheers is my perfect woman. So please, please ladies, don't dress too conservatively or I might have to rape you and then it'll clearly be your fault.
I see. Men are weak-minded creatures totally incapable of controlling their animal urges and should be put in charge of everything.
Also, I've had a girl's "ABSOLUTE purity" before. It was kind of awkward. Things get much better with experience.
"Ladies, this is why it is so incredibly important that you dress modestly and do not call attention to your body! Your purity, your ABSOLUTE purity is a treasure you must save for me so I can perform sexual enlightenment on your young, nubile bodies that is ordained by GOD to happen before the rapture. I am the chosen one. Now drink your Kool-Aid."
Sorry, had a creepy perv moment there. I do imagine this is how Bro. Randy (sic) really thinks, given that a simple search of FSTDT will throw up a raft of his comments as pertaining to young females. He seems obsessed with teens and sex.
@Flatworm: I had a guy's absolute purity. All 50 seconds of it.
Have to make some excuse for your lustful and sinful thoughts towards women, huh Randy. Sorry, but your just as sinful as everyone else.
"Nah it's the women's fault for arousing me by showing themselves in public!"
One of my biggest pet peeves is when someone refers to males exclusively as "Men" and females exclusively as "Girls." It's so fucking condesending, like women are on the same level as children. If you say guys/girls, not offensive.
But this shit pisses me off so much....
I always dressed modestly, and I still got raped.
Then it got too hot, and I have great legs, so screw you, I'm wearing shorts.
In saying that, skanky girls are icky.
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