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aardvark2 #fundie telegraph.co.uk

How dare the WHO criticise good Tory policy. Just as bad as the bbc and it's left wing views on anything Conservative.

Catering for the poor and unfortunates would cost us even more and particularly the higher tax payers. Just because much of Europe is more generous to these people, certainly doesn't mean we have to follow suit. Europe generally has better health services, pensions, welfare and benefits and this reflects it's idealistic socialism. Even more reason for us to get out of the EU asp.

No, for once we have a Government following Maggie T's philosophies: if you aint got, you don't get, and rightly ridding us of an over culture of altruism and pity. If Cameron hasn't got the stomach, then bring back Duncan-Smith. He aint bright, but at least he's got excellent Thatcherite values, and knows what the Traditional Tory really wants.

[A time machine to travel back to Victorian Britain?]

Nothing wrong with that.

Maggie T was a professed admirer of the Amended Poor Laws of the 1880s. These helped fashion her philosophy, and the advent of much admired Thatcherism.

These laws made it much more difficult for the poor to get handouts from the State and reduced their dependence on the workhouse. To survive they had to seek work of any kind, and provided the cheap labour that drove the Industrial Revolution reducing the heavy taxation of the rich. Result, a very prosperous country.

Thatcher, Joseph, and to some extent, Tebbit, incorporated this into their policies, and is something the present Government neglect at it's own peril.

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old comment by Hasan Prishtina

This reeks of Poe/Troll to me.

1) Comparing the UK to Europe in terms of other countries' better health services, pensions and welfare? A real Tory would dwell on the Euro, employment practices, labor unions and dirigisme.
2) No True Blue Tory would talk of Iain Duncan-Smith that way.
3) There is no evidence at all that the Amended Poor Laws fashioned her philosophy, though I do remember the left-wing New Statesman magazine talking in those terms about what they thought her Victorian values were about in the 1980s.
4) The Amended Poor Law Act was passed in 1834, not the 1880s and created workhouses - rather than reducing dependency on them - as a means of providing poor relief. Perhaps that's part of the Poe/Trolling.
5) There had already been huge migration of labor in Great Britain before 1834 where people had to seek work of any kind.

It's not even that fundie.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

"How dare the WHO criticise good Tory policy"

"No, for once we have a Government following Maggie T's philosophies: if you aint got, you don't get, and rightly ridding us of an over culture of altruism and pity"

O RLY? Speaking as a Brit who lived through the Second Dark Ages: 1979-1990, as The Who would say...:

(*sings*)

'We won't get fooled again!'

PROTIP: Even the real Antichrist Maggie Thatcher (*spit*) realised only too well, that the NHS - the basis of the Welfare State as a whole - is a political 'Third Rail': touching it means Electoral Death. Thus:

The NHS celebrated in the opening ceremony of our 2012 London Olympics. Thatcher (*spit*) not so much.

(*sings*)

'Ding dong the Witch is dead!' >:D

"If Cameron hasn't got the stomach, then bring back Duncan-Smith. "

Remember the 2010 election? The Hung Parliament as a result? The fact that the reason your precious Tories are only in No. 10 is via the grace & MP numbers of Nick Clegg's Liberal Democrats. Ian Spunken-Shitbag? Oh yes, please! He - as per Sarah FAILin in the US - would be the final nail in the coffin of the Tories; never mind the 80+ years of the LibDems in the political wilderness, they'd probably replace the Tories as the 2nd Party, with Ian & co. as the Third and irrelevant Party. >:D

old comment by Anon-e-moose

(Part II):

@Mister Spak

"what's Reagans excuce?"

Like the inferior subhuman who licked his arsehole, he went loopy, so...!

And curious how right-wing Fundamentalist Christainity only came to prominence in the US during his administration, eh? You cannot spell 'Fundamentalist' without the word Mental; and he did close all the mental institutions in the US, therefore...!

@Zaragoza

Nah. As I say here: (http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=83711), I channel my energies into destroying arguments. And the fact that Thatcher (*spit*) ultimately went loopy and removed her inferior subhuman Nazi self from our clean, sacred Socialist Britain - which still has the NHS, a Welfare State and Karl Marx buried right here in the UK (and my locale is now fully the glorious Peoples Socialist Republic of Kingston-upon-Hull ([/Irony]) with a fully Labour council & three Labour MPs) - means I won the argument before Thatcher (*spit*) was fucking born.

And of course, this quote is from the "Daily Torygraph" (although it wouldn't look out of place in the letters/comments section of the "Daily Fail"). Not exactly from, say, "The Guardian"/"Daily Mirror"/"The Independent" - unless the author was an intellectual masochist who wanted to be verbally eviscerated by left-wingers - but there you are.