[Many people will fornicate, never get an STD, never get pregnant, go on, get married, have kids, and lead a nice life. People do it every day.]
Unfortunately that's too true.
I've been praying for the opposite.
If they don't suffer now they will suffer in their afterlife.
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You are killing the core reason. You can agree or disagree with St Paul or with the church on the matter but bear in mind that if they command that guidelines, it´s because they want to avoid the statements above. To say that you pray for people suffering, it´s anti-christian to begin with. Second, it´s utterly selfish and egoist. You can´t say please God, make them suffer so that they see I´m right. Pathetic.
Wow, you sure put a damper on the party, raven55. It sounds like you've never had nookie in your life. Do yourself a favor, go out and get laid. You'll feel better, we'll feel better.
Annnnnnnd... raven55 also prays for other people to suffer horribly. It doesn't seem to occur to him/her to pray for people to not "fornicate," rather, they would prefer the "fornicators" to suffer as much as possible.
If God is as merciful as you say he is (when you're not telling me he will condemn me to eternal pain and suffering), he will completely disregard your prayers.
If they don't suffer now they will suffer in their afterlife.
This poster's username is well taken. In the Brother Cadfael mystery The Raven in the Foregate , the eponymous character is an insanely rigid zealot, a hateful, sadistic, self-righteous priest who cares nothing for love or charity, but only for criticism and dire consequences.
With each passing day, and sentiments such as this, I lose more and more of my "live and let live" attitude toward believers. This guy's merely praying for the suffering of his fellow human beings... but there are all too many Christians willing to put their thoughts into action. The least dangerous of these is legislating their worldview while disregarding non-Christians, the most dangerous being willing to kill other humans "as an instrument of God's will."
"I've been praying for the opposite."
For instance, he is approached by a woman in his parish for confession (deeply in need of help), and when she tells him she is pregnant out of wedlock, he doesn't even give her the option of penance for forgiveness; he simply condemns her and rants at her for her "unforgiveable" sin and throws her out of the church.
The Last Conformist: Since when has that stopped a real-world hardline fundie, including ordained ministers, from deciding that God would drop all this namby-pamby "forgiveness" stuff when it came to the "sins" that they felt were beyond redemption (e.g., homosexuality, atheism, abortion, voting Democrat)?
The Last Conformist: True, but this particular priest (in the story) is attached to the court of King Stephen, so he has enough clout to get away with excesses against the common folk as long as he mostly keeps to the letter of the canonical law.
I've been praying for the opposite. not fornicate, get an STD, get pregnant, not go on (?), not get married, not have kids, and not lead a nice life?
I suppose that the first three in combination would be a bona fide miracle...
You've been praying for the opposite. Of sexual, social, and emotional maturity, perhaps?
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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