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Why does he even put his tracts into comic form when the characters do nothing but expressionlessly recite walls of text, anyways?
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I mean, Chick Tracts at least had some plot, at times used the pictures to illustrate the exposition, and even had the occasional visual jokes, a few of them even managing to actually be funny! Yes, they were still horrible even before we get to jthe content and messages, but at least he seemed to have at least a vague understanding on how to use the art-form. Here, however, the images add absolutely nothing ! That's not how you use comics!
Technically, they're both not human (yet) and not capable of living independent of the mother. Who, apparently, can just go ahead and die if that's what it takes to save "the unborn" according to you pro-life assholes...
Of course you miss the whole point of the discussion: That the mother is a human too, already has a life which she is exploring and has the right to bodily autonomy. Had to write a whole exame in bioethics about the problem of finding out where to draw the line: When does a fetus become a person with full rights? How does the problem of potential life figure into it? By forbidding abortion you are taking away many rights of the mother and potentially put her into serious danger (the baby too). By allowing abortion at any time you might take away certain rights of the baby once it is developed enough (but as I said, when is that?). You have to find a balance, consider each case carefully, give pregnant women all the help they can get. But reducing the problem to such an insulting "discussion"? No Adam, I know that you only want easy answers, but this just isn't such a black and white problem. But of course, makes-it-easy is in full effect here.
Also: Why did the strawmen no. 201449 in your comic say that she has twelve arguments for abortion, but never states them? Oh yeah, because you aren't interested in actual dialogue. This comic doesn't say anything interesting about abortion, but it says much about you Adam.
"Adam Ford"
Yet another 'pro-life' fundie who subscribes to "A fraction of a second after the egg is fertilized, it morphs into an egg-sized version of a newborn; a BABY, that has all limbs and organs in place fully developed and can think and feel just like a born child! So no matter how early in the pregnancy an abortion is performed, an INNOCENT HUMAN BEING is MURDERED!!!!" is he?
Which is it?
Not human. Specifically, it is not "a" human.
It's life, in the same way that any cell is alive. But it is not "a" life.
It's human, in the same way that a human heart or a human liver or a drop of human blood is human. But it is not "a" human.
I'll go along with innocent. But aren't you the ones that keep saying that we're all guilty of sin?
Next question, please.
Innocent human life.
Innocent? Your religion teaches otherwise.
Human? Only in the sense that an acorn is an oak tree.
Life? Yes, the life is the woman. She gets to decide.
This is another case of religion not knowing its boundaries.
A human body without a functioning brain is an empty suit. The thing you're calling an "innocent human life" does not possess a functional brain. It doesn't even begin to develop its first brain cells until a month-and-a-half in. So unless you consider clipping your toenails to be an act of mass murder, you've got no argument of any kind.
And if you're arguing this from a Christian standpoint, you lose by default on account of Yahweh's own word on the matter (and actions throughout the OT).
The funny thing to me is that he at least has his sights on the correct argument in his other "comics:" Is a fetus a person? He argues that a fetus is a person, (though that's still just through vigorous assertion.)
However, "human life" is a squishy term which is ripe for equivocation, and misses the point of the argument.
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Rarity: 'So why aren't you looking after all the unwanted babies in the world then, darling?'
Now you know why her friend learned that even one's 'Opinion' isn't worth shit: certainly when it can be destroyed by simple facts, or in this case: an alternative idea.
By just thinking of one, has she done with you as she previously did with a certain Earth pony: made such her bitch. Now here's a couple of alternatives for you: either start washing those nappies & preparing those bottles or STFU, Adam Fnord.
...also, all those Samaritan unborn in Hosea 13:16: Either they were innocent, or your 'God' is a murderer . [/Hobson's Choice]
Pro-choicers aren't the ones who pull wordplay bullshit to avoid the point and you fucking know it, Adam.
There's no doubt that the fetus is going to grow into a human being who will begin their life innocent (except in the eyes of fundies who'll try to hold them accountable for shit five generations ago or something stupid like that), but until they can be removed from the womb and continue to live and grow without another human being acting as life support, they are not yet living.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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