You are still caught in the religious idea of the 'ultimate' explanation. There is no ultimate explanation that we can possibly attempt to understand. The attempt here is only to understand immediate causes.
Ideas such as random variations, chance, emergent property etc. are not explanations. They are attempts to keep possible non material explanations at bay and to circumvent all such ideas. It is a fear of the non material. The God phobia!
What I am attempting is only to explain Consciousness, Self, Life and other phenomena that we experience everyday. For this, taking a cue from the way man made objects get created and how they evolve, is perfectly in order. As above so below!
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As above so below!
A Hermeticist fundie!
As weird as this guy sounds; I have no problem with this quote or the other one I saw (more or less). He sounds a but loopy and complex but I see nothing frummy, hateful, restrictive or anything with it.
He simply sounds like a guy doing his own version of what I've done a number of times, here....Explain my understanding of the Greater Reality and the relations between the Matterial, Psychic (Mental & Astral) and Spiritual.
This is only FSTDT-worthy if you're a hardcore "Only matter is real"/Atheist/Non-Spiritual/We cease to exist when we die" sort of person....People who, while having a different worldview, I will not criticize for said view nor be hateful.
Now; If Sriram decides to tie this to Hindutva or some other Dharmic religious fundamentalism, then I'll see this as FSTDT-worthy.
To me; This guy's just a bit....uh....complex sounding.
As above so below!
Physics disagrees.
Yeah, I'm with SpukiKitty here. Outside of a touch of tossed salad upstairs, this guy seems pretty tame compared to what we have. I'd see it if he were advocating the oppression of gays or women or outright denying science, but he's just babbling about greater meaning. An ancient human pastime.
@NearlySane
Hard, uncompromising nonsense is easier to disentangle from than softer, more malleable nonsense. Hence the popularity of being "not religious but very spiritual" in spite of the heavy resemblance such people's spirituality very often bears to their prior religious affiliation or upbringing.
Sure. J.S. Mill, countless chemists, biologists, etc. have written whole libraries worth of papers incorporating the concept of "emergent properties" simply in a terrified attempt to keep God at bay! Ditto all those mathematicians waving about their studies of chance, probability and randomness!
And for his next trick, Sriram is going to explain consciousness, self, and life (which are not capitalized, unless that's what you've named your cats.) Easy peasy, and biologists can shut their labs and go home.
OP is not just fundie, he's a egotist without any idea what he's talking about.
A random cosmic accident. Gradual biological processes.
And how do you account for Siri, Cortana, and Alexa?
Unless Arthur C. Clarke was correct, then that's all we need. And with laws, morals take care of themselves.
The Mad Aussie Sparky - of EEVBlog fame - Dave Jones was right when in one of his popular mailbag videos on Youtube , and someone had sent him from CERN in Geneva a T-shirt with a design of a particle detection trace, and it included a postcard with a photo of a section of the Large Hadron Collider, he said 'Who needs religion, when you've got this?!'.
And I thought his infectious enthusiasm - coupled with his quirky take on tech & electronics being so entertainingly enlightening - was enough for me to watch his vids? He's even more of a bonzer bloke now. No Worries! [/Bill Nye]
The thing that makes this worthy on the list is this guy's comment about "God Phobia" and his non-acceptance of people who don't believe.
I got around to actually READING this in detail.
I was tired the first time and had just woke up. Sorry.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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