At least one person here thinks that being Straight is eqivalent to being in the KKK. Why?
Yesterday I asked if it was OK for students to wear "Straight Pride" T-shirts to school.
Dannii n Sac responded: "No that is pretty much the same as someone walking into school with a KKK outfit."
What is it with the sheer intolerance and bigotry displayed by so many gays and their advocates?
If they're not threatening their debate opponents with choking and acid facials, if they're not hurling racist slurs at opponents who (like me) happen not to be white, they're comparing straight people to the Klan.
I thought you folks were the big champions of respect and tolerance. But I guess many of you just want to receive those things, but don't want to give them.
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As long as it wasn't being used as an attack on others, I personally have no problem with a "Straight Pride" T-shirt.
The problem is that a "Straight Pride" T-shirt, at this point of time in our culture and society, has hateful conotations even if the wearer of the shirt does not intend it to be that way.
It's ironic, but sometimes a part of responsible free speech is knowing when it would be irresponsible to exercise it. I have a very blunt and frank friend who "tells it like it is" and "speaks her mind." Yeah, you always know what she thinks about things, but she also spends a lot of time simply pissing people off and hurting feelings.
Sandman: excellent point about the hateful connotations. But then, she'd have to be smart enough to get a connotation. I think this bitch wouldn't get it if it came up, introduced itself and then slapped her in the face.
"Black pride" was started by blacks to voice to themselves and others the message that, despite social attitudes to the contrary, being black isn't a bad thing. There clearly was a problem with the psychology of equality and this was meant to help fix it. Ever since, "pride" slogans have been dedicated to the righting of wrongs (as perceived by the ones repeating the slogan).
"White pride" started up in response to this. Shouted mainly by confirmed racists, this message was an attempt to spin hateful ideas into a positive package. What was it an affirmation of? To racists, it was a cry of white superiority. It's a chant to rally the troops against equality. Everyone noticed; nobody was fooled.
Now we have "gay pride." It's clearly a take off of "black pride" and serves the same purpose. (You aren't less of a person just for being gay, etc.) But what suffering is "straight pride" meant to alleviate? What poor image or inferiority complex is there for straight people? And who is repeating this slogan? Here the comparison to the KKK is apt. It's nothing more than cheerleading to a particular group that has no real grievance but still want conflict.
At least one person here thinks that being Straight is eqivalent to being in the KKK. Why?
Yesterday I asked if it was OK for students to wear "Straight Pride" T-shirts to school.
There's a difference between just being straight and wearing a "Straight Pride" T-shirt. The latter, given the current circumstances, would be hard to interpret as anything but a message of intolerance.
Guh, I loathe reverse-racism whiners. "Wah wah, I can't wear my White/Straight Pride t-shirt because all the bigoted blacks and gays say I'm intolerant, waaaaah."
If you are a middle-or-upper-class straight white person, you have no business acting like you're persecuted.
Another person without a lick of sense. Dumbass, you have to have a legitimate beef to begin with. "Rich, white guy pride" isn't going to garner sympathy, only contempt.
There's nothing wrong with a "Straight Pride" t-shirt. Freedom of speech covers the right to spew hateful twat. Obviously, wearing a "Straight Pride" or "White Pride" t-shirt may convince people that you're a jerk, and they would be drawing a legitimate conclusion being considered a jerk is something you'd have to live with.
WE'RE intolerant and bigoted?! When was the last time you heard of gays beating a Christian to death? When was the last time Christians were accosted, screamed at, or leered at for something as simple as holding hands? When was the last time a group put limits on the BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS of Christians? When was the last time someone lessened the sentence of an assailant by testimony that the victim cited Biblical verses? When was the last time that someone protested a Christian funeral?
Tell me. When?
Amos nailed it. There's no need for a "Straight Pride" T-shirt because we aren't harassed for being straight. We might be content with being heterosexual, but to say that we're proud of it takes a whole other meaning. So the shirt would be utterly pointless and it could send off negative vibes to everyone else.
Straight people participate in Pride parades.
I'm as straight as a laser.
Yet, lasers create fabulous patterns in all the colours of the spectrum.
Lasers can cut through things. Like arguments.
Comedian & comedy writer Kevin Day once had an argument for being a member of the neo-Nazi National Front. He cut through that argument when he realised his own thinking was unjustifiable, and became very much left -wing.
The only thing he didn't tolerate was intolerance: his own .
John McVicar: once one of the most violent criminals, until he realised how unjustifiable his own behaviour was, based on his own thinking. Then he started educating himself in prison. These days, he's an eminent Professor of Sociology.
If he can change: completely, what's your excuse?
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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