If there were reasons and evidence, there would not be atheists. Not so?
The evidence is the universe and everything in it. The reasoning is that something cannot come from nothing, and the cause must be greater than the effect.
If there are atheists, it is because some are incompetent, e.g., infants, toddlers, severely retarded adults and possibly some mentally deficient autistics or others. Others are competent, but rebellious.
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An Atheist - Professor Stephen Hawking - has proved the existence of at least eleven dimensions .
When your 'God' can't count beyond four, then I know I'd rather accept what a man in a wheelchair says.
Just take a look at the number of Phd.'s and other advanced degrees among those that call themselves atheists and the extreme lack of those same degree's among those who believe in creation and it's easy to see that this post is crap.
Furthermore, many of the degree's that creationists hold came from what can best be described as paper mills. Pay your money, believe the outlandish crap we do, and poof, you got an advanced degree in bigotry, hatred, gullibility, and stupidity.
Stick your head in the sand, ignore reality, and you too can be a creationist.
mentally deficient autistics
Most autistics are not mentally deficient. Try again. Oh, and your creator deity created all those severely retarded adults you mention, as well as healthy ones. Why? Is his design so flawed? Does he goof up a lot? Or are maybe they the ones who are in God's image and not us healthy folk?
So, since their god is supposed to be something and that the cause must be greater than the effect, what was its cause?
IF the universe and everything in it was evidence for a god; which one are they evidence for? Allah? Shiva? Wotan?
The Bible says that God created everything out of nothing.
Besides, where did your god come from? The cause for that effect must be humongous...
So, a huge majority of all scientists are rebellious? Again; against whom? Brahman? Zeus? Quetzalcoatl?
Faith and reason are opposites, dearie.
Faith Reasoner: "The evidence is the universe and everything in it. The reasoning is that something cannot come from nothing, and the cause must be greater than the effect."
Atheist: "Well, *God* would be 'something'; and if something can't come from nothing..."
Faith Reasoner ("Not THAT *again*" annoyance): "THAT only applies to WHAT GOD HAS CREATED!!!! God HIMSELF is excempt, because HE! IS! *GOD*!!"
something cannot come from nothing, and the cause must be greater than the effect.
Quantum theory disproves the first bit. Something can come from nothing, so long as it isn't being interacted with and thus won't be caught defying conventional physics. The void that existed before anything sounds like a good example of a space where that could happen a lot.
Second part is just beyond stupid if you have even a basic knowledge of physics.
If there were reasons and evidence, there would not be atheists. Not so?
Not so. People don't always adopt positions through evidence and reason. By the same token, if there are no reasons or evidence, there ought to be no religious people. It doesn't work that way.
mentally deficient autistics
Quite apart from the slur against autistic people, many of whom are very far from mentally deficient, one would have thought that if all the evidence points one way, that would make them more likely to support your beliefs rather than less.
"The reasoning is that something cannot come from nothing"
Shouldn't this also be applied to the christian god?
"the cause must be greater than the effect"
Why?
" Others are competent, but rebellious. "
Those are the ones that invented the internet you are posting this on, thus participating in their rebellion.
"If there are atheists, it is because some are incompetent, e.g., infants, toddlers, severely retarded adults and possibly some mentally deficient autistics or others."
tl;dr vaccines cause atheism
Calling other incompetent, infants, toddlers, and severely retarded, but uses the stupid "atheists think that everything came from nothing" argument.
"If there are atheists, it is because some are incompetent, e.g., infants, toddlers, severely retarded adults"
Well, infants don't know anything, toddlers usually still believe whatever parents tell them (Santa, Easter Bunny, "we'll think about it," etc. I know of two churches where the most regular attendees are mentally retarded adults from nearby group homes. What does that say about your theory?
P.S. Everyone is born an atheist. It's not until the adults in their lives start propagandizing that they "convert."
@voiceofreason
Just take a look at the number of Phd.'s and other advanced degrees among those that call themselves atheists and the extreme lack of those same degree's among those who believe in creation
What, "Dr." Kent Hovind's PhD he bought from an unaccredited bible college doesn't count?
"If there are atheists, it is because some are incompetent, e.g., infants, toddlers, severely retarded adults and possibly some mentally deficient autistics or others. Others are competent, but rebellious."
...or, like Jonathan Edwards - who is completely able in not only body, but mind (he must be if he was a long -time Christian), and is one of Channel 4's presenters of the 2016 Rio Paralympics - annihilating your entire argument.
This "something cannot come from nothing" notion is perhaps the hardest thing to talk to a fundie about. You can direct them to a video of a panel of physicists discussing the concept of "nothing," singularity, Planck era, etc., but it's like showing a cell phone to a cat.
"Something cannot come from nothing, therefore biblegod" is a stupid argument, mostly because it's a non-sequitur.
"Something cannot come from nothing," sure, I'll grant you that. But why must the universe come from something? Why must it have a cause or a beginning? I find it much simpler and more intuitive to believe that the universe has always existed, in one form or another, and has no beginning.
Faith Reasoner: "Something cannot come from nothing."
Skeptic: "Where did God come from?"
Faith Reasoner: "Nothing."
Skeptic (shakes his head like there's something wrong with his ears): "So if something cannot come from nothing, then 'a god who comes from nothing' cannot exist?
Faith Reasoner: "Uh ..."
Skeptic: "OK, let's try something else. Suppose you're right. How does that show that God still exists, there is only one God or that God did anything else besides create the universe 14.5 billion years ago?"
Faith Reasoner: "Uh ... the Bible?"
The notion of 'Omega' being the spark that started the Big Bang which formed this universe doesn't sound too fictional: and that - in an episode of "Star Trek: Voyager", which the Borg are ordered to assimilate at all costs, and Federation officers from Captain & over are ordered to destroy at all costs - when you consider 11-Dimensional Mathematics, with the concept of infinite multiverses: 'Membranes' which collide with each other, releasing unimaginable amounts of energy, thus forming new dimensions in said multiverse, may be a case of fact being strager than fiction indeed.
Sounds infinitely more credible than your 'Invisible Sky Wizard' fairytale: for how do you know it wasn't an Invisible Pink Unicorn who actually brought this universe into being...?! [/Lauren Faust]
" the cause must be greater than the effect."
This perfectly sums up the sad mindset of religion and fundies in particular. The fact that life has to blosdom from some superior power for you to feel important is not obly depressing but is scary in the sense that the instance that this becomes irrelevant to you, all morality and standard ethical behavior goes out the window.(now that's what i call FAITH!)
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