(on teaching kids to read)
When they read we must have discernment. I just finished reading the 1996 book, Disney and the Bible. On page 145 it discusses how The Lion King teaches Buddhism. The author uses only King James Bible Scriptures. The Marketing of Evil
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In regards to those authors: BULLSHIT [1]
1: Proverbs 12:17 (ESV)
I read Pippi Longstocking when I was a kid. I bet those books are completely free from KJV scriptures.
@ Efrain
How, precisely, do you expect your kids to learn discernment if they're only allowed to read things that conform exactly to one single, rigid point of view?
@ #1203159
OH NOES! WITCHES!
Actually, Kiki's Delivery Service is a Studio Ghibli film, but Disney did dub it, if I remember right.
You're making it sound as though Buddhism is something to fear and is evil. I heartily disagree.
And in Aladdin, characters mention Allah! Oh noes!
Seeing fundies with their panties in a twist over Disney movies makes me actually proud of being a Jafar fangirl.
(And no, the Lion King circle of life concept is nothing like Buddhist teachings, and more in line with actual ecology. The only mention of life after death is for the kings, and Mufasa isn't reincarnated; he's more along the lines of a ghost.)
Buddhism in the Lion King!
Seriously Taryn, how do you even get through your day with all this imaginary terror in your life?
When they read we must have discernment.
This line's fine. It's a good idea to think critically about anything you read.
I just finished reading the 1996 book, Disney and the Bible. On page 145 it discusses how The Lion King teaches Buddhism.
And here's a good example of needing to use critical thinking. What was the author's source material for determining this? Did he interview the writers? Did he compare lines from the movie with lines from Buddhist writings?
The author uses only King James Bible Scriptures. The Marketing of Evil
And is that good, bad, or indifferent? Also, what does this point have to do with your earlier comment? The two topics are in no way related, and yet you include them in the same paragraph! Never mind critical thinking, you need to learn basic English writing!
Im great at looking at different things and relating them to each other too. But if you take what you get out of that seriously, if you consider yourself "Certain" unless its a certainty about something that is essentially a subjective way of categorizing concepts and understanding the world(even then be mindful that other ways of categorizing are equally valid) you will go crazy. Its like looking at a wall and noticing a pattern that looks like a raccoon and deciding to treat it like a raccoon(do that long enough treating your imagination like its reality and thats how many people descend into psychosis).
Funny, when I watched The Lion King when I was a kid and it was in theaters, I never developed an interest in Buddhism after watching it. When Mufasa explains to Simba about the "circle of life", I understood it from an ecological and physical standpoint and not a spiritual one.
In fact, if you want to accuse the makers of The Lion King of anything, your best bet would be the accusation that they blatantly ripped off Kimba the White Lion
But I digress.
If you look at the rest of the original thread it's actually a fairly rational-sounding discussion of how to teach little kids how to read: phonics vs. whole language, the merits of different textbooks etc. "Taryn" suddenly bringing in her Disney-Buddhist paranoia just makes everything that much more awesome.
Someone who reads the Bible and either believes it's all (or mostly) true or agrees with what it teaches, has no place saying that people should be discerning readers.
I think some translations must be better than others as far as closeness to the original and intended meaning, but the Bible is still fantastical, amoral, and violent, no matter how many different ways you translate it. There's no point in getting tied up in a knot about it.
@Detrs
Uh, as someone who knows ... a lot more about TLK than he's comfortable admitting ...
Lol, same. I went through a Lion King phase and watched it ten times, and then watched it again with commentary. XD I've also looked it up on Wikipedia.
I can't say I know more about The Lion King than you do, and I doubt I know nearly as much about Buddhism as you do, but I must say I agree with what you said. I don't see where The Lion King teaches Buddhism. I mean, I guess I can see where some segments line up with Buddhist teachings, but overall? No.
@Alencon
The Lion King teaches Buddism? What does the Little Mermaid teach? Wicca?
Actually, it teaches Christianity. XD Hans Christian Andersen wrote the original fairytale, and intentionally gave it Christian overtones. Kinda C. S. Lewis-y. The mermaid in the original story wanted to be human because her grandmother told her than humans have souls that live on after death and can go to heaven, whereas mermaids simply become sea foam when they die. XD The mermaid wanted to become human so that she could have a soul.
Sorry, just a little trivia... I read too much Wikipedia... XD
@Power Skunk
You jackass, The Lion King is more an animal-starred retelling of HAMLET ...
I... Whoa! I never thought of it like that! Cool! It totally is, too! Whoa...
Aw dammit, now every Disney film I see I'm gonna equate with something by Shakespeare...
EDIT:
Wow, I should've known better... I remember watching production stuff on my Lion King DVD and at one point the camera was panning over a piece of paper describing the relationship between Mufasa and Scar, which was described as being "Shakespearean". Eh, what can I say, I'm clueless. XD
>> This is the third time today the Lion King has come up in my life.
Swahili teacher brought up how if brought the words 'hakuna matata' (properly pronounced and everything) into American consciousness. Also 'rafiki.' That's cool and all. The Hamlet thing has always been cool, although Simba is massively less of a dick. Here's my question: Is Horatio split between Zazu and Nala, or is he replaced by Timon and Poomba?
Buddhism is a lot more complicated than Taryn thinks.
O noes, Buddhism!
</sarcasm>
I have watched "The Lion King." I have never gotten any indication from the movie that it is teaching kids about Buddhism. You are an idiot.
@LadyJafaria: I'm surprised that I haven't yet heard from any fundies about that one.
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