(On the subject of the Titanic sinking)
Recall that the designers of the ship claimed that "not even God Himself could sink this ship"...
Suddenly, it dawned on me... I realized that the engineers crossed a line with God with this statement, and that God may have carefully orchestrated these factors in order to prove a point (and I think that he may have arranged to have His creation on full display as part of this as well). I suspect that if they had something else along the lines of "we are confident this ship can handle every incident or accident scenario that has ever occurred, and then some" or something like that, things may have turned out differently... I think it was the direct, personal mocking of God that brought this disaster about.
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Actually, the designers never said that so there's goes your whole hypothesis.
Even if they had, are you saying your "God" would punish innocent people for the hubris of a few?
as far as I remember, I think the Titanic described as unsinkable only in stories that were written about it, years after the tragedy. some writers thought it enhance the drama of the disaster.
but let assume god's existence, this sentence being said and the connection between those thing and the titanic sinking. it only prove god is infantile and deserve to be mocked for inflicting horrors for petty reasons.
Just another example of God's poor aim, even if the story were true. The only designer on board was Bruce Ismay, and he survived. Builders Harland & Wolff is still in business.
Railfan727 needs to stick to trains.
Your God is a petty douchebag who has absolutely no business telling people what's moral and what isn't. And, judging by every other comment on this site, he's doing a shit job of that, too.
"Recall that the designers of the ship claimed that "not even God Himself could sink this ship"... "
I don't, no, because I am too young and I doubt this was ever said by the designers.
No doubt you'll claim that God loved the victims of the Titanic's sinking, despite its attempts to kill them all because of its immaturity, superiority complex and extreme sensitivity.
the Titanic was, for all its design flaws, built by professionals. never mind that Murphy's law had not yet been formulated, professional shipbuilders in the nineteen-teens knew fully damn well that ships sank and that implying otherwise was just tempting fate. claiming that they would have said any such damnfoolish thing is just asking for that old XKCD "citation needed" picture.
It sank because the builders were idiots.
Also, what did the 1,000 odd passengers that died do to offend your gawd?
Yeah, because Gob is a toddler and plays revenge. Never mind that such actions would be extremely childish, immature, and just downright stupid, but that's evil as fuck!
God: "how dare some human say something with so much pride...I think I'll kill a bunch of innocents to teach that fucker a lesson."
Man, you and your god can go fuck yourselves, you sick, pathetic little fuck.
@ Churchy LF
That's what I figure; his well demonstrated aim.
He was probably trying to electrocute a guy in a rowboat in Omaha with lightning. I'd probably like to have a dart game with this "God", but imagine the tsunamis, fires, earthquakes, worldwide death and destruction from him missing as widely as he does.
Innocent children in 3rd world countries, mysteriously stabbed in the head with darts.
The sinking of the Titanic is another proof of the classical greek gods.
Look at the Titanic and their sisterships:
Olympic - Named after the Olympians - Successful
Titanic - Named after the Titans, the Olympians archenemies - Sank
Britannic - Original Name: Gigantic, after the Giants, another set of enemies for the Olympians - Sank.
QED
Well, a real god could have turned the ship into a giant walrus which then devoured all passengers. But of course your god chose to do something that was 100% rooted in our actual physical universe.
Your god's quite unimaginative.
A) That's a myth, they never said that.
B) Your god chose to revenge himself on the designers by killing numerous innocent people?
Putting aside the fact that this is based on fiction in more ways than one, it's amazing to me how often this God sends messages disguised as natural events so that the intended recipients are ulikely to benefit from them. Like the time he sent Ariel Sharon, an elderly man in poor health, a stroke; a message so well-disguised that only Pat Robertson was able to decipher it.
You are a sick person for mocking & ridiculing such a tragic event. Go drown yourself in a septic tank.
Likewise, you god would be a twisted, childish, psychopathic monster for murdering countless innocent people just to prove a point to one loudmouthed designer. But it's okay, because god "loves" us.
The diCaprio film "Titanic" was not a documentary!
When will fundies learn the difference between fiction & reality? (Silly question, I know.)
Your God is weak and powerless. He couldn't kill me right this second even if he wanted to. I piss on your God.
There. If I'm still alive at the end of the night, your God is either imaginary or impotent
Meanwhile, here in the cause and effect universe inhabited by sane people, the Titanic sank, mostly, because the captain made several stupid decisions. No god was needed to kill 1,500 people and anyone who believes in a god that would kill 1,500 innocent people to get even with one guy who might have said something blasphemous and wasn't even on the ship is more vile than anyone I choose to associate with.
Then your god is a petty douchebag. If he wasn't, he might have given enough of a shit about the crew and the people unable to escape when the ship started to sink to help them find their way out of a situation over which they had no control. Trapped and drowning in the darkness is a pretty painful, awful way to die.
OK, let's review. Your God is allegedly omniscient, so He knew, even though the Engineers never said it, that people would think that statement had been made about Him. This made Him mad enough to arrange it so the Titanic's maiden voyage would happen a week or so after the full moon was at perigee, causing an unusually high tide, which in turn caused an unusual number of icebergs to be present in the North Atlantic. Furthermore, He arranged that the Captain would be overly ambitious and race through the danger zone. He then arranged a dead calm night so not to give away the berg's position too soon through the action of breaking waves.
So you're saying that God might not play dice with the Universe, but He plays billiards on Earth with timing out the moon's orbit, weather, icebergs, ships, currents, and navigational charts?
What an asshole!
Recall that the designers of the ship claimed that "not even God Himself could sink this ship"...
I recall something about how False Witness is a sin... but who gives a shit what God says, right?
If God sunk the Titanic, why did he give its movie 13 Academy Awards?
Oh yeah, that's right, it's because God is an evil bastard who hates good cinema.
The Titanic's designers never made that claim, for starters. And if they had, all the Titanic disaster would prove according to your "logic" is that your god is an egotistical sack of shit.
And rubber chicken is correct. Tragic as it now seems, the Titanic was carrying more lifeboats than was required by the hopelessly outdate Board of Trade regulations in force at the time.
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