[A poster quotes Answers In Genesis]
Yeah, it's one of my all time favorite sites. They have resources that children can understand all the way up to PhD peer reviewed articles in various branches of science.
Once people understand the true underlying issue, the scales really do fall off.
I remember many years ago when I first went to university, our biology professor told us Darwin's finches as PROOF of molecules to man evolution. Seeing as my head was full of impressionable youthful mush, I didn't catch the obvious at the time (which I NEVER let slip now). Had I known then, what I know now, I would have put up my hand and said "Excuse me sir, at the end of Darwin's observations, weren't the finches still finches?"
I didn't realize at the time that variations within kinds is actually true science (e.g. short people, tall people, skinny people, fat people, black people, white people ... are all still PEOPLE). However, a cow giving birth to a cat is a fairy tale for fools who would dream up ANYTHING to deny God and His handiwork all around them. However, they are still without excuse and judgement awaits them whether they believe it or not.
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" didn't realize at the time that variations within kinds is actually true science "
Please define "kind". I dare you.
"However, a cow giving birth to a cat is a fairy tale for fools "
You're absolutely correct about that. That is why no person thinks that this is possible. Only fools who do not understand evolution attempt to use it as an attack against biological evolution. You actually should want to find a cow giving birth to a cat because that would disprove much of evolution. Just as a Precambrian bunny would. Although not entirely.
Now go try and actually learn how evolution works and what variations over time, natural selection, mutation, migration, genetic isolation, and genetic drift mean.
Until you can thoroughly define these mechanisms of evolution you should stop pretending that you know anything about it.
And where did you publish this devastating rebuttal of evolution? Who were the experts who reviewed this iron-clad argument and wailed, "how could we have been so wrong?!?" When will the new textbooks reviewing the latest research in Halism be published?
Or are you just too modest for all of that?
Answers in Genesis is my favorite parody site. The way they lampoon creationist arguments is hilarious.
Wait, what? You mean they're serious?
> "Excuse me sir, at the end of Darwin's observations, weren't the finches still finches?"
Of course they were. That isn't the point.
What you should realise is that what we observe to be distinct species only shows up that way because we do not (usually) see the transitional forms. In reality changes in species are gradual, continuous. Parents and their offspring must always belong to the same species, it's when there are many generations in between and changes have added up that you can say that they're different species.
> However, a cow giving birth to a cat is a fairy tale for fools
Yes. Good thing no-one believes that, eh?
WND is a home for those who have absolutely no brains whatsoever. Hal is a brain-dead moron to even think this shit has any internal logic or any connection to biology.
Please Hal, get another hobby. This one is making you look impossibly stupid.
Excuse me sir, at the end of your blithering, wern't the finches still evolving?
However, a cow giving birth to a cat is a fairy tale for fools who would dream up ANYTHING to deny the reality of evolution existing all around them.
I would have put up my hand and said "Excuse me sir, at the end of Darwin's observations, weren't the finches still finches?"
And he would have said: "Of course they are, you thick-headed twink! It's the Theory of Evolution, not X-Men! Things don't just randomly change into something completely different like Transformers or Pokemon. They gradually diverge and eventually become separate species. This is what happens when you sleep through class and use your biology book as a door stop!".
>However, a cow giving birth to a cat is a fairy tale for fools
But a human giving birth to god is real?
A cow giving birth to a cat is indeed fairy tale for fools. Creationist fools, that is. No sane person has ever believed a stupid thing like that.
All female dogs are giving birth to wolves, as dog is just a subspecies of Canis Lupus, i.e. wolves. In another ten thousand years or so, they might speciate.
Horses and donkeys are almost done with their speciation; they very rarely have fertile offspring together. So, are they not sharing "Kind" any more, silly?
I would be willing to bet that the biology professor, unless he's incompetent, actually said that Darwin's finches was "proof" that species can radiate to fill available ecological niches. Said finches are just a single, minor, data point among the millions of data points that support common descent.
BTW. You can perform an experiment of your own. Simply capture a male and a female finch belonging to different species and see if they can cross breed.
All the short, tall, skinny, fat, black and white people can interbreed because we are all one species.
Darwin's finches CANNOT interbreed because they have become different species of finch.
This is how evolution works.
"Excuse me sir, at the end of Darwin's observations, weren't the finches still finches?" asked Hal brightly.
The room fell silent. The professor turned around wordlessly, an expression of horror and despair etched on his face. The stick of chalk he was holding fell from his trembling hand, shattering into a million pieces on the floor. With a howl of anguish, he fled the lecture hall.
The other students in the hall all converted to fundamentalist Christianity right then and there. With a great shout, they lifted Hal up onto their shoulders and bore him around the hall in triumph. A bald eagle named "Ronald Reagan" flew in carrying two scrolls that read "States' Rights" and "Small Government" in its talons, perched on top of the American flag, and led everybody in a stirring rendition of "God Bless America", followed by a reading of "Of Pandas and People".
The professor was never seen again.
"Had I known then, what I know now, I would have put up my hand and said "Excuse me sir, at the end of Darwin's observations, weren't the finches still finches?""
And the instructor would have replied "Yes--did you have a point?"
Evolution is defined as 'any change in the genetic composition of a living population over generations'--there isn't any requirement the genetic changes cause a change along the lines of a 'finch' becoming something other than a 'finch' for those genetic changes to represent evolution."
"However, a cow giving birth to a cat is a fairy tale for fools who would dream up ANYTHING to deny God and His handiwork all around them."
Since no evolutionary model predicts we should ever see a cow give birth to a cat, if it did happen it would be evidence against evolution.
However, a cow giving birth to a cat is a fairy tale for fools who would dream up ANYTHING to deny God and His handiwork all around them.
I didn't know 8th grade was considered "university". If you think that's how evolution works, you obviously didn't learn much from your professor.
Who says that cows give birth to cats? That sounds like something from a Dr Seuss book!
Don't try to be a smart-arse: that was one of the simplest examples of speciation and you still didn't understand.
Of course they were still finches. You might as well have raised your hand and asked if they were still birds, you moron!
OK, If you actually undertook biology at a University level,,,how is it that you STILL don't get gradual changes over time?
How can you still jump to the "cow giving birth to a cat" strawman that comes, not from any scientific work or field but from fairy tales, myths and religions?
How can you not see you put your own supernatural beliefs on top of what you were taught to accuse it of being idiotic?
When did Darwin or any study since ever claim they weren't finchs? Site.
I'll expect your report by next Fridays class.
"Yeah, it's one of my all time favorite sites. They have resources that children can understand all the way up to PhD peer reviewed articles in various branches of science."
Then why does the media keep feeding them bullshit that teaches them how to count and spell if they understand PhD. "science"?
However, a cow giving birth to a cat is a fairy tale
Yes, it is. Good job evolutionary theory says nothing remotely similar to that.
@carne_rojo
Thank you for that Jack Chick tract, it was fascinating. What jumped out at me was the Aryan features of creationist student and the pince-nez wearing, biology teacher with a three piece suit, a big nose and a goatee. The student is 1950s American; the teacher is from Vienna or Berlin in the 1920s and could have stepped straight from the pages of Der Stürmer.
“I remember many years ago when I first went to university, our biology professor told us Darwin's finches as PROOF of molecules to man evolution.”
Proof? I think you misrecall. Finches are not in the line between fish and humans. So, no he fucking didn’t.
Evidence towards, maybe?
Or better yet, an example of evolution.
Good thing you didn’t speak up, you’d have looked like a drooling idiot.
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