But looking past that, having no God means that whoever is the biggest, fastest, meanest or strongest becomes the boss. There is no justice other than what humanity comes up with, which is purely in the eyes of the beholder, and even more so the giver. Think of Mao, Stalin, the current leader of Iran .
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having no God means that whoever is the biggest, fastest, meanest or strongest becomes the boss.
No it does not. Having no God means, well, having no God.
But looking at the past, whoever is the biggest, fastest, meanest or strongest becomes the boss, and got to say you should worship their God.
Fixed!
There is no justice other than what humanity comes up with
Absolutely. So it had better be good, yes?, and backed up by some logic, not just 'God told me'.
Could be true in a sense, some people do need a bully breathing down their neck in order to behave. On the other hand, one could argue that God is this bully, invented by the biggest, fastest, meanest and strongest people at the time for just that purpose.
Could be true in a sense, some people do need a bully breathing down their neck in order to behave. On the other hand, one could argue that God is this bully, invented by the biggest, fastest, meanest and strongest people at the time for just that purpose.
But looking past that, having no God means that whoever is the biggest, fastest, meanest or strongest becomes the boss.
And that doesn't happen today? If you're looking for proof that God exists, "the meek have inherited the earth" is a lousy argument.
Wait a second, wouldn't it be true anyway?
Your God is without a doubt the biggest, fastest, meanest and strongest of the bunch (if he exists). So by your own logic god is just a tyrant.
It's not like God invented democracy, he is fascist you know.
""But looking past that, having no God means that whoever is the biggest, fastest, meanest or strongest becomes the boss. "
This explains Rove and Cheney.
Huh?
No, having no gods means that we are suddenly responsible for ourselves.
There is no "boss".
There suddenly is justice, instead of religiously justified injustice.
Why think of them? Is there a reason?
The current leader of Iran (yeah, I'm too lazy to look up his name, too) has a god; he's the same fictitious character you worship, though his name in Arabic is "Allah."
Hey, dretard, have you not noticed? That IS what's going on. Countries that have gods, countries that have no gods, countries that have YOUR god...they've all committed atrocities!
Don't mess with me. By popular acclaim I am biggest, fastest, meanest, strongest hombre around. And I know where you live.
<i>whoever is the biggest, fastest, meanest or strongest becomes the boss...</i> [You forgot the pimp daddies, DW.]
No, most of us are evolved, enlightened humans, which means the <i>smartest</i> usually has a better chance of succeeding. Politics and religion provide the only mechanisms that the Bubbas and Dubyas have, to achieve any sort of influence over their spiritual and intellectual betters.
'God's justice' is an oxymoron, however you slice it, as this Jehovah fruit-bat seems to want nothing more than a flat world planted with bloody corpses.
Human justice is predicated on the notion that innocent people should not be crapped on. Is that too difficult to assimilate?
the biggest, fastest, meanest or strongest becomes the boss.
Isn't that true of knuckle-draggers whether there's a god involved or not?
And Ivan the Terrible, Vlad Drakul, the Crusaders, Hitler, the Inquisition, the Witchhunters, the Quaker hunters, MacArthy, can I go on?. And remember that the current leader of Iran, who has done nothing but bravado at the moment, is theist.
You're right, the biggest, meanest or strongest becomes the boss...................only that it happens everywhere(since the president of Iran is moslem, and MacArthy and the slave-holders in the States were Christian, you'd understand the point)
"..biggest, fastest, meanest or strongest becomes the boss.."
Look at the American political dynasties!!
Fuck me - the GOP (mouthpiece = Fox news) are grooming Jeb Bush's son now!
"biggest, fastest, meanest or strongest becomes the boss"
Actually, there is also an Intellectual factor, and it often manages to beat the other four through better planning and being better at devising new weapons.
It's because there is no God, that [often] the biggest, fastest, meanest or strongest becomes the boss.
Think of Mao, Stalin, the current leader of Iran, King Leopold of Belgium, the Kaiser, the Caesars and Pol Pot.
There is no justice other than what humanity comes up with, though most people, religious or otherwise, can recognise it when they see it.
Fixed it for you.
"I am the Lord, thou God. You should have no other Gods before me."
Does that ring a bell? Biggest, meanest, strongest, perhaps?
Humanity has come up with democracy and laws and courts. The more prosperous countries are often ruled by consensus of some kind or other.
The current leader of Iran is lead by what he thinks God wants him to do.
"But looking past that, having no God means that whoever is the biggest, fastest, meanest or strongest becomes the boss. There is no justice other than what humanity comes up with, which is purely in the eyes of the beholder, and even more so the giver. Think of Mao, Stalin, the current leader of Iran."
The fucking CHRISTIAN CHURCH!
Don't even pretend you don't know the dark ages were when the church ruled over King, Nobleman and ALL military.
ALL.
In case you missed it.
And were the dark ages a wonderous, prosperous or happy time for the masses? Know what, Military fodder, not even remotely, not even for you stupid dog-soldiers that committed yourselves to die for the church.
Funny thing about those examples, dwgerard. Mao, Stalin, and the leaders of any country DID rise to power, didn't they?
So if the claim is 'without God, people like Mao would become the boss,' and MAO became the boss, either there's no God, or God doesn't interfere with human efforts to become a boss.
So, either way, you have JUST DEMONSTRATED that there is no justice other than what humanity comes up with...
Think of Mao, Stalin, the current leader of Iran
...or Donald Fart: who's currently making your enemies stronger .
There's an extremely good reason why Barack Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize. He knew that the capital of Israel was Tel Aviv.
Is Kyoto the capital of Japan, Wiggy...?!
Confused?
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