Yes, they try to say everything evolves to be something else...and deny the science of the animal staying within the same species.
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Feel the bottom of your butt. There's a little knob there at the base of your spine. Feel it? Good.That used to be our tail.
Next time you pray, ask god why in heaven's name he would bother to slap that on for no reason?
"I didn't get it...because it is ridiculous."
You're right, you don't get it; not because it is ridiculous, because you're ignorant.
So you're saying it's not happening because you don't understand it?
Do you understand how cell phones work? Do you understand how the Internet works? Are you saying those don't work because "you don't get it" and they "are ridiculous", too?
"Yes, they try to say everything evolves to be something else..."
And they try to say that god created man and the universe by crapping them out of his ass...
"we would see it happening before our eyes continually, right?"
Right. And we do. So there. Check out fruit fly experiments, nylon-eating bacteria, etc.
It's because evolution doesn't go apes --> humans. We both branched off from a common ancestor millions of years ago. Why is this so hard for fundies to understand?
Knowledge is constantly swimming upstream against the current of willful ignorance.
Just because you don't understand it, doesn't make it any less true. You make it clear that you have no understanding of the process of evolution, yet you speak out against it. At the very least, you should learn something about a subject before you dismiss it so authoritatively.
"One friend's daughter tells her that we evolved from apes and my friend says - but apes are still here and the daughter says that is because it takes thousands of years for it to happen and we happened before the ones here now.
I said huh?"
And yet, the alternative - a lump of dirt turned into a man - is supposed to be infinitely more credible? Well in that case, why is there still dirt?
Everyone on Planet Reality says 'Huh?!'
"I said well, if it happened with us, wouldn't that be cumulative and be happening around us all the time? It didn't just happen all at once or we would all be changed immediately, so if it was that way -- we would see it happening before our eyes continually, right?"
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Usain Bolt.
I guess you don't want to talk about it any more.
"I said huh?"
Hardly the first or last time.
"My friend tried to explain what her daughter was saying but I didn't get it...because it is ridiculous. How convenient that it takes thousands of years and it just sort of already happened and it will happen again but we won't see it because it takes thousands of years."
Typical fundy logic: "If I don't get a theory then it must be a lie. It certainly can't just be that I lack the necessary scientific knowledge". Sin of pride, fundies. That's one of the deadly ones, too! Then again we're talking about people who find the idea of the entire universe being formed as it is now in six days more reasonable than it taking its current form over the course of billions of years. Of course they would have a hard time wrapping their heads around the idea of some things in this universe being bigger than us and operating on timescales of their own rather than one that is convenient to man.
"I said well, if it happened with us, wouldn't that be cumulative and be happening around us all the time? It didn't just happen all at once or we would all be changed immediately, so if it was that way -- we would see it happening before our eyes continually, right?
She didn't want to talk about it any more."
Because she'd already established just that . It's you who thinks -- who needs to think and thus refuses to accept the actual theory -- that evolution is a sudden, extreme change that works like what you see in Pokemon . I don't blame her for giving up and leaving. I wouldn't want to waste my time on the willfully and hopelessly stupid either.
"everything evolves to be something else..."
No. Species evolve (note I didn't say "individuals evolve") when there is environmental pressure to evolve. Some species have more pressure to evolve than others.
"and deny the science of the animal staying within the same species."
Why don't you explain in great detail this "science of the animal staying within the same species". Tell us exactly how this works. If small changes add up to larger changes, what, exactly, over long periods of time makes them stay within the same species?
I think we just have to accept that some people are too wilfully stupid to ever understand evolution.
Mind you, they are quite spectacularly idiotic - I teach Biology, including to Special Needs children who struggle with writing their own name correctly. Yet they can understand the basic principles.
We are apes; we didn't just evolve from them.
If the Earth revolved around the sun, wouldn't we see the parallax of the stars continuously? We do - it's just small enough that we need a telescope to see it. Evolution is an ongoing process - I believe people have gotten taller over the centuries. Not to mention, you know, nylon-eating bacteria. Darwin's finches. Vestigial organs. (Dogs don't have appendices, and a rabbit's appendix functions to digest cellulose. As eaters of mostly meat and fruit with very little cellulose-rich plant products in our diet descended from cellulose-eating herbivores, our appendix shriveled over the millenia into the easily-infected bacteria hive it is today. Dogs' ancestors split from those of rabbits and ourselves before the appendix even developed. And now, after my off-topic rant, you know.) The Tiktaalik and other transitional forms. Must I go on?
Apes are still here because only SOME great ape populations evolved to human populations, and others evolved to various other varieties of ape.
Technically speaking, we are apes anyway.
"My friend tried to explain what her daughter was saying but I didn't get it..."image
Evolution is ongoing, continually, all around us all the time, numb nuts. When it is pointed out that evolution is happening before our eyes the creationist-wankers always sputter "b-but that's not actual evolution because --insert lame excuse here--!"
I'm surprised your friend talks to you at all, frankly.
She didn't want to talk about it any more.
Because, judging from this conversation, you did grasp the concept but still stubbornly refused to accept it. She saw that and realized it was pointless to continue trying to explain it to you.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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