For myself, it took a while to see the importance of using a rod. Now that my children are older, they have told me that they respected and feared the rod more than anything else I ever used for spanking. It should also be noted that there may be times when spanking with a rod can leave marks on a child's bottom, especially if several spanking are needed within a brief period of time. However, these marks are temporary and should not become a source of discouragement to parents. It is better for children to carry a few temporary marks on the outside than to carry within them areas of disobedience and wrong attitudes that can leave permanent marks on their character.
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Try not to leave too many marks Roy, those pesky child services people can pop up anywhere, and for some reason, they tend to frown on the beating of children.
All things considered tho, this isn't very fundy. No mention of god at all.
Hey, all right, your kid respect the rod but not you! That's some great parenting there, Lou.
Ugh. Parents who need to resort to abuse disgust me.
When they told you how wonderful and effective using a rod to beat them was were you at that time brandishing a rod in front of them? I can only imagine it was that, you're making shit up, or you decided to insert the word 'respect' all on your own to serve your purposes.
I can just see it. The little child looks terrified at the rod, completly submisive, but the moment the father sets it down he gets punched in the balls and beaten with the Rod of Justice and Discipline.
Isn't it a pity that they respected more the rod than you?, pathetic. And believe me, the spiritual marks, those will never leave(according to the testimony of many of the guys you "corrected", who are now in the psychiatrist)
I hope child services finds out about you!
I have three kids, not one of them got/gets beaten or physically punished, ever! Still, whereever we go, I get complimented on how well behaved my children are! They really are, even my teenager! Wanna know why?! Because I respect them and take their concerens serious! You know what else - they respect me too, because I earn their respect every day. ooo[pppps - carried away again
As a child, I was spanked. Hand, belt, nose against the wall (Occasionally holding dictionaries...one in each hand) and even a couple "light" strangulations. Basically, whatever my sadist of a step-dad felt fit the crime at that moment, or moreover, appeased his anger. It achieved nothing. We just became subversive against him. We resented him...hated him. Additionally, we became meek, broken versions of ourselves (myself and my siblings.) Spankings do not work. The obedience you get is merely a broken spirit. And if that's what you truly want out of a child, I feel no remorse in labeling you a monster.
My stepfather beat me and my siblings when we were young.
You're going down the same path, Roy. And as distasteful as I find real-life violence, you may deserve it.
@Nonprophet
God help him, too, if he goes too far with his children, and beats him/her to death. Child crimes are NOT smiled on in prison.
They respect the stick, but they hate you, and as soon as they get old enough to fight back they will.
And you probably deserve whatever retaliation you get.
I know what this was my parents always hit me with a steel rod or they whipped me with an electrical cord when I was a kid. They did it not only because of their emotionally issues but for religious reasons as well.
My cousin was raised the same way and he's in jail, so take that for your character.
In my country, leaving a mark or using anything other than your hand to smack a child is illegal. It is child abuse and you can loose your kids for it.
Sad that men like this are so insecure with their manhood that they have use violence to deal with his kids. He must have a very small dick.
Has anybody read the WHOLE book, the new one, not the 1975 version? Lessin had a change of heart. He no longer advocates pants-down spankings, has changed the minimum age for spanking, and defines a rod as a small flexible switch. Much more moderate than before...still, as a spanking parent I am troubled by his religious fanaticism that dictates any and all misbehavior and ATTITUDES can be spanked out of kids. I spank, moderately, as a last resort. I have two honor-roll students, and (biased as I am) two of the most well adjusted kids I have met, when I compare them with their friends...Spanking, done with the child's understanding and consent as a means of helping them learn, is not abuse. Loving, dispassionate and non angry corporal punishment, used judiciously, does not harm the parent child bond. Angry shouting and wild slapping away does.I was abused as a kid, yet I recognize sometimes it is much more fair to spank a child reasoanably than it is to deprive them of something for long periods of time, like grounding for a week. My sons have ASKED to be spanked as opposed to long drawn-out "sentences". I am careful not to indulge this because spanking then, by itself, becomes an easy way out. I shoot for the middle ground.
@WheelerB: I got spanked in grade school. At home from time to time. I don't know if it was right, but where I lived and the time I lived in, it was considered normal. I also don't know if I'd do it to my kids but...I think I turned out okay.
But nothing...NOTHING...like this, or like the woman who forced her son to select a fresh willow switch every morning and then gave her son ten licks every day at noon for a week. This isn't isn't troubling, it's fucking alarming.
Dear Roy Lessin,
It is with great sorrow that we have learned that you have sired children. We welcome them with open arms, but we now regard you as an alien species. Please leave our planet now.
Sincerely,
Enjoy the shitty, abusive nursing home your victims will put you in. When the staff are beating and neglecting you, maybe you'll think about the crimes you committed against your children.
But I doubt it. You'll just whine about being oh-so-persecuted. After all, you suck Jesus cock, so you can't possibly be wrong about anything!
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