Many non-theists are always saying that CHURCH and STATE should be separated. Well, if they are Christians, then, we can assume that their babblings are logical. BUT they don't believe the Bible.
The Bible was the one who had given us an idea that the CHURCH and STATE should be separated.
So if you don' t believe the Bible that it is true, then, you are simply saying that CHURCH/BELIEFS and STATE should be conjoined!
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Wait. What?
Someone take samurai's drugs away. If I read one more of his circular, pointless, illogical, brain to mush reducing posts, I'm going to need some of them.
Wha.... *drools a little, snaps out of it*
So the Bible gave us Church and State separation (?) and if we reject the truth of the Bible we are saying that we reject Church and State separation.
FAIL. Most obvious point of fail being that ideas don't belong to any single book they appear in.
I'm a non-theist Christian who doesn't believe the bible. Therefore, my babblings are logical! w00t w00t!!!1!
Tom Paine, with "Common Sense", was the one who had given us an idea that the CHURCH and STATE should be separated.
After that...apologia ex ignoramus.
Samaurai is probably thinking of that "Render unto Ceasar those things that belong to Ceasar and render unto God that which belongs to God" verse. That, of course, had nothing to do with the separation of Church and State but rather should one have to pay taxes or not.
...huh?
This is probably the first, and only, Fundie to *ever* speak in favour of seperating Church and State, and saying the Bible is in favour of it. I'm quite impressed. :P
'samurai' is apparently saying "The lack of belief in a system is equivalent to belief in the logical negation of the system". I.e. Christianity is literally all or nothing.
Don't they teach them anything at school any more?
So....all those fundies who say that separation of church and state is a bad thing (or an outright myth) are going against the bible's teachings?
Man, Heaven's looking more exclusive every day.
So by that logic, if the Bible says Perga was a city in Pamphylia and you don't believe in the truth of the Bible, then you automatically must be claiming Perga wasn't in Pamphylia? That's silly. One can still believe something in the Bible is true without buying the whole package.
Uh samurai, this "issue" of yours was resolved about 5 or 6 hundred years ago. Which "non-theist" today actually still argues this, its already been resolved there no need for argument come back to the 21st century please.
* jtgj kaa haghjahgjaklhjalh i4rh ur*
Sorry. I had to get a new keyboard - it was between my head and the desk.
Please, samurai, do us a favor and just cut your nuts off so we don't have to deal with your spawn.
Maybe we can get the state to pay for some sort of "Logic and Reasoning 101" for those of us that must know that there are errors in our arguments.
Why can we get these kids through advanced algebra or pre calc but we can't get more that what, 30% tops out a debate class?
I... I can't comment on the whole thing. I can't. I just had one brainspasm, I can't deal with another one so soon...
Wait, wait... the Bible is a "who" now? When did this happen? Did... is your Bible talking to you, Samurai? Is it whispering in a leather-bound, rustly-paper voice? If so, SEEK HELP.
Just because I disbelieve the Bible's claims about Jaysus and invisible angry sky pixies doesn't mean I can't accept other parts of it as true. There's some good stuff in there among all the bullshit, the Golden Rule for example.
It's not a matter of either you believe it's all true or it's all false. It's possible to reject some things and accept others. Besides, I don't think the Bible supports separation of church and state.
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*Stares*
The logic, or lack thereof, in this statement makes ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY no sense.
Nearest I can tell, he's saying the fundies are resisting a separation of church and state to spite non-Christians.
Non-theist: someone who holds that one or more god may exist, but said existence is completely irrelevant to life and morality. in short nontheism holds that the existence or non-existence of god(s) might well be knowable but is simply irrelevant either way.
Separation of Church and State: a concept that protects both church and state by preventing one from interfering in the other.
Uh, where's the connection?
The bible advocates church/state separation? Chapter and verse plea-
Oh, I see, Lol, you almost had me there.
No, the atrocities during the Dark Ages, the treatment of minorities by fundies and the horribel things done by governments in the name of religion, gave us the idea that religion and state should be separated.
You can come to the same conclusion from different directions, dolt.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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