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I have never seen anything evolve, have you?

The Sea Shell I find up in the mountains is hundreds of millions of years old,,, ,, , looks just like the one you find on the beach today?

I guess it just plum forgot to evolve (lol)

For evolution to be true,
it would still be going-on today in an on-going process,, , meaning, we would still have things crawling out of the ocean in all different stages of evolution. But we dont do we.

Species do not change they never have and there is not one shred of evedence that they do, NOT one.

It is called Stasis, meaning, things simply do not change.

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old comment by Random Guy

I'm holding part of a fossil ammonite that's about 98 million years old right as I'm typing this. And there aren't any of them left. Even its closest relative, the chambered nautilus, still doesn't look exactly like it. In fact, ammonites evolved a number of different coiled shapes before going extinct. You won't find any of them on the beach, because they're extinct.

Also, I've found a ton of 157-million-year-old fossil shells from belemnites, which were squidlike creatures from the Jurassic period encased in bulletlike shells. Modern squid only have a tiny sliver of a shell left, and you will not find a living squid with a bullet-like shell anywhere.

old comment by NJ Osprey

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nylonase)

In 1975 a team of Japanese scientists discovered a strain of Flavobacterium living in ponds containing waste water from a factory producing nylon that was capable of digesting certain byproducts of nylon-6 manufacture, such as the linear dimer of 6-aminohexanoate, even though those substances are not known to have existed prior to the invention of nylon in 1935. Further study revealed that the three enzymes the bacteria were using to digest the byproducts were novel, significantly different from any other enzymes produced by other Flavobacterium strains (or any other bacteria for that matter), and not effective on any other material other than the man made nylon byproducts. [1] This strain of Flavobacterium, Sp. K172, became popularly known as nylon eating bacteria, and the enzymes were collectively known as nylonase. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nylonase)

Put another way, in a mere 40 years (1935 to 1975) or less a new, unique life form evolved to take advantage of a new niche in the environment. "Life will find a way."

old comment by Brian X

Uh... you see, when you see a shell in a fossil bed that looks like a modern shell, all you have is the shell, and often not even as much of it as you think. It is entirely possible that the modern animal inside the shell is more or less identical to the original in physical appearance and size, but that doesn't bring into account various issues of biochemistry and the like (for example, some species of abalone are in a furious rush towards speciation based solely on a family of proteins connected to the reproductive system. These abalones don't look terribly different, but they have significant difficulties in reproduction.)

And how do we know we don't have things crawling out of the ocean? Certain kinds of marine fish and cephalopods can survive for short periods of time outside water, and labs have had serious security concerns regarding octopuses escaping from their tanks and eating other specimens on the other side of the lab. The guy who wrote "The Future Is Wild" and "After Man" didn't pull those gigantic terrestrial cephalopods out of his ass.

“I have never seen anything evolve, have you?”
About twice a year in the Navy.
New vaccines for new diseases, new warnings about Resistant STDs. You probably don’t think it’s evolution, but you clearly know dick about evolution.

“The Sea Shell I find up in the mountains is hundreds of millions of years old,,, ,, , looks just like the one you find on the beach today?”
Weird. Hey, what part of evolutionary theory says any one species MUST evolve? You know, those charts where they show that the crocodile is X million years old, the shark is Y million years, and so on? They numbers are all diffeerent. Like, once a species finds a good form for the environment, it doesn’t NEED to change.

“I guess it just plum forgot to evolve (lol)”
You guess stupid. And you LOL at your own failings.

“For evolution to be true,
it would still be going-on today in an on-going process,, ,”
It is.

“meaning, we would still have things crawling out of the ocean in all different stages of evolution.”
Why would it mean that? Why would something choose to compete as a new form in a saturated niche?

“Species do not change they never have and there is not one shred of evedence that they do, NOT one.”
I guess that’s easier than actually debunking the actual evidence, huh.

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