I don't like the word evolve but rather adapt.
Yes I think adaptation takes place instantly. Dolphins would of gone from land to sea in say five years after the flood.
The evidence that creatures change from one state to another is excellent. Only the mechanism and time is a problem.
I believe that marsupials are just the same creatures as elsewhere on the planet. So important, if minor, change can take place quickly. As long as a creature stays within its kind. Whatever that is.
The verse in the bible is correctly interpretated as giants of the deep and not whales.
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"The verse in the bible is correctly interpretated as giants of the deep and not whales."
But surelificly, if the bible is openified to the possibilitude of being interpretated differentially, then why is there a necessitation to take the storality of Noah and the flood literally at allsome?
Okay, but you haven't explained why the model we've got is wrong (do you have any other sources to corroborate the Bible on this?) and you haven't explained why you believe this.
Piaget maintained that the two types of psychological adaptation (i.e. learning, not to be confused with your word for evolution) are assimiliation and accommodation. Rejection can also be added to this. You're really overaccommodating here. Why don't you try rejecting something with which the assimilated evidence doesn't fit?
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Also, David B. FTW!
I'm not sure which bible verse he's talkin about, but exactly what creature could 'giants of the deep' refer to if not a whale? Granted a lot of marine life is larger than that found on land (many sharks are 8+ feet, most whales are gigantic compared to land based organisms, dolphins are almost always longer than humans are tall, etc.) but I really wonder what he's getting at with that. It sounds like he's either denying whales exist (wouldn't put it past him) or implying that some creature we have no kowledge of does exist, or did (though undoubtably many creatures we know nothing of exist now and in the past).
wait...5 years after the flood? I thought all that shit got cleared up after 40 days? Well, sure it rained for 40 days but I thought things more or less went back to normal after that. Or is this one of the guys claiming that there were no oceans prior to the flood? I get confused with the the varrying takes on the myth.
Assuming it's one of the no coeans guys, how long did it take for the new oceans to become salt water (since rain is fresh water)? Following that, how long did it take for the marine life (other than mammals) to convert from fresh water to salt water? I'm gonna have to assume a matter of minutes in light of the fact that it didn't all die out immediately.
Also, I can't believe i didn't notice his use of the phrase 'would of'...Fuck I hate that shit. IT'S WOULD HAVE, YOU FUCKING IDIOT!!!
Robert fails at biology, English (would HAVE, you twit), Biblical scholarship and reality in general.
This is what happens when you don't pay attention in school, kids.
"As long as a creature stays within its kind. Whatever that is."
We've been trying to nail you evasive fuckers on that very definition for ages.
Any way you slice it, for the Flood to have taken place would require massive influence by your magic sky daddy to put everything back the way it was.
The evidence of fossils, geology, glaciation, radiometric dating, etc. does not bear you out.
"Yes I think adaptation takes place instantly. Dolphins would of gone from land to sea in say five years after the flood"
You're that fucker in Mcdonalds who told me my food would be ready instantly aren't ya?
As long as a creature stays within its kind. Whatever that is.
Oh, the jokes just write themselves.
Five years? Wouldn't any land animals have had to adapt to underwater life in about three minutes? Bobby says "Instantly" and gives it five years...
Why do I try?
Only a problem for creationists who claim that ancient ignorant mythology must be right. Some will attempt to compromise, accepting that evolution takes place up to some point. They still deny the actual time scales and the common origin, speciation, abiogenesis. And they must add to and remove from scripture what they need and find inconvenient (something forbidden by scripture). Just admit that it's not science and the origin myth of an ancient people, it explains it much better. And embrace reality.
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