[From article "Against Spooning"]
If the argument against spooning were only a physical one, I would not feel so strongly. After all, many people are gluttons for punishment—who am I to deny them their strange pleasure? But there’s a deeper issue here, a troubling aspect of spooning that emerges in the dimension of ideology, of what it all means.
Please recall the big spoon/little spoon roles I described earlier. A look at the gay adaptation of these terms is useful in exposing the power relationship they instantiate. Among gay men, big spoon and little spoon have become softer ways of signaling whether one is a top or a bottom during sex. But, as has been true of the top/bottom dynamic since the beginning, these also carry certain connotative weight: Big spoons are manly and will take care of you (provided you let them use you to take care of themselves); little spoons are fragile, passive creatures that need to be held and kept safe. This, of course, is fundamentally a sexist arrangement, one that casts the big spoon as “the man” and the little spoon as “the woman.” To say that this power imbalance is built into all acts of spooning—whichever the sexes engaged—is not, I think, an overstatement. Indeed, I would argue that spooning is always already a power play, a perverse strategy by which we nightly enact the unjust relations of “big” and “little” privilege that plague our society on every level.
We can do better than this.
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You're bothered because some people like to cuddle after happy sexy fun times? You actually think snuggles are *sexist*?
I didn't know this was a thing. Seriously, just...find something else to get worked up over. Jeez.
Ah, SJW self-contradictions. Always a fun read. They advocate sexual freedom, yet at the same time want to impose arbitrary standards on sex and related concepts to keep it politically correct. So basically, in SJW land I get to have sex with any other consenting person in any way I please, except not really.
With all the ridiculous bullshit restrictions on what constitues "acceptable" sexual conduct that I've seen Tumblr feminists and SJWs spout over the years, you're basically left with staring at your sexual partner while masturbating, if that. I find it extremely funny how in the name of sexual liberation these people manage to be more prudish and picky than uber-christian conservatives.
Also, fuckwit, the assumption that a submissive partner can only be a fragile, helpless creature, as you put it, is a massive stereotype in and of itself, and anyone in the BDSM community will tell you how catastrophically wrong it is.
How dare anyone show affection by laying close together! I'm guessing that Mr. Lowder's bed is a cold one.
And once again, fundies need to get their noses out of other people's private lives.
J. Braying Louder could feature in "Private Eye"'s 'Me And My Spoon ' section. Also...:
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(Contd. P. 94) (You're fired. To the Moon. Ed. ) X3
@mika
"No the big spoon is for soup and the little spoon for dessert"
And don't forget:
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=^_^=
@Doubting Thomas
And once again II, nosey fundies need to get their lives out of other people's privates. X3
My only problem with spooning is the fact that I end up with a mouthful of hair.
Then again, that's true of a number of positions.
I get the feeling you don't cuddle much, dude.
What about people that simply feel comfortable on one position or the other? Or on one side of the bed or the other? What about couples where spooning occurs all willy-nilly? Or where one partner is simply smaller than the other, therefore goes with the most comfortable option?
Do people really go through their lives wondering about the social ramifications of every action they take, public or private? Or spend actual time contemplating the power dynamics of basic intimacy? What's next? Telling me I have to buy a stepladder for my girlfriend so she can occasionally lean down to me for a kiss while we're standing (because otherwise I'm a heteronormative* crusading, sizeist**, sexist*, domineering*** scumbag)?
Also, in the immortal words of The Tick:
SPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!!!!!!!!
* She and I are both bisexual and treat people like people, not gender stereotypes.
** I just happen to be about a foot taller than her.
*** Power is a variable thing with us. And she tends to wear the pants just a bit more than I do. We have a nice balance going, I think.
You've given this waa-hay too much thought, dearie.
Spooning is just a cozy way to cuddle. Hubby and me often spoon when we're sleeping. I like to be the one behind (as he's 195 cm tall and I'm just 163, I will never be "big spoon", regardless of who's behind whose back), as I think it's a bit claustrophobic and hot to be all-encircled by him.
Does that make me "the man" in our relationship, and him "the woman"? Or is it you who read much too much into a sleeping position?
"To say that this power imbalance is built into all acts of spooningwhichever the sexes engagedis not, I think, an overstatement."
Eh, yes it is.
I'm 5' 3", he's 6' 5".
It's not about power, it's about size. I still spoon him, but it doesn't work out as well, since my arm barely goes half way around him, which he thinks is kinda funny.
@Azereaux
Actually...
A writer friend, who often makes BDSM-focal stories (in a formal sense, with full lifestyle awareness and consideration) has implied on several occasions that the outcome of being formally BDSM-involved turns life into a big shadow-show of meaning and score. Does making dinner mean you have ceded power or is it an expression of choice? It depends on who said what hours or even days ago, and who said it with a particular stance. It makes every day events into something like The Matrix "I want the cookie because someone wanted me to want the cookie because someone knew I wanted the cookie because they wanted me to want the cookie." No one is ever allowed to just want the cookie.
@Gabriel LaVedier
I know some others in BDSM relationships (including a master and pet that I'm hoping will help my gf and I refine some things, and this trio that hosts these sweet pool parties every year) that would call that overthinking by a big margin.
But, I suppose all are entitled to overthink things. Whatever works for them, I guess.
@Gabriel
I suppose it all lies in knowing where the fantasy begins and ends, to be fair. Cause not gonna lie, that sounds fun for like a weekend battle of wits with the loved ones, but left unchecked, that kind of thing rapidly becomes toxic.
Seriously?
You're thinking too much into this. Not everything a couple does is power play, for goodness sakes.
People would go with what's comfortable, surely.
Heck, I'm pretty sure I'd be happy enough being a "big spoon" if the situation calls for it, and I'm a lady.
Cuddling is one of those things I wish I could do more of. :c
Let me get this straight. You want to police the types of relationships people have, as well as the way that they show affection, because you claim that they'll cause damage to society? What's next, making women wear burkas so they won't be objectified?
We can do better than this.
I agree wholeheartedly. We can do a hell of a lot better as a society then to give pseudo-intellectual bullshit like this the time of day when there's so many more pressing issues out there to solve instead of condemning spooning as oppression and privilege, to which one word applies "lol".
>But, as has been true of the top/bottom dynamic since the beginning, these also carry certain connotative weight: Big spoons are manly and will take care of you (provided you let them use you to take care of themselves); little spoons are fragile, passive creatures that need to be held and kept safe.
What if you're a dominant bottom? And let's be honest here, the "big spoon" is basically a chair.
Chiaki Kurihara does not tolerate your bullshit, J. Braying Louder...:
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...and if you so much as think of getting between her and a chocolate parfait, she'll eviscerate you with the dreaded Spoon of DOOOOOM! [/"Moretsu Pirates"] X3
WorldGoneCrazy once did so. The poor, poor sod. >:D
@Mathius_dragoon
You've probably read one of mine.
Confused?
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