Among the belief systems of the world, evolutionism can be classified as an endangered species. Though it has many followers, it is not a “healthy” belief that can survive on its own. Other belief systems survive because they are supported or confirmed by scientific evidence and rational thinking. Not so with evolution. It survives only because it enjoys special protection under the law, which is afforded only to endangered species that cannot compete without such help.
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Among the belief systems of the world, creationism can be classified as an endangered species. Though it has many followers, it is not a “healthy” belief that can survive on its own. Other belief systems survive because they are supported or confirmed by scientific evidence and rational thinking. Not so with creation. It survives only because it benefits from widespread scientific illiteracy, which helps this endangered species because it cannot compete without such help.
Last time I looked it was creationism seeking special legal protection.
The key point about all types of creationism is that, sooner or later, a miracle happens. No science, just some Sky Daddy waves his hand and suddenly, life. Creationists don't want to prove this methodology, they just want people (including school boards, library boards, textbook manufacturers) to accept it as a viable alternative.
Jason is clearly a silly person and a liar.
We have the fossils. We win. Creationism can only survive by having laws passed to force it down the throats of public school, because it is not a healthy belief that can survive on its own, in spite of its many followers.
And the only fossils it has are fake like the Paluxy river mantracks.
Yeah, just keep telling yourself that. Whatever it takes to keep you believing in your fairy tale.
Meanwhile, creationism keeps up its constant fight against reality.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: I get more convinced every day that fundies are from some alternate universe. That's the only way I can explain some of their beliefs. They come from a universe where Jesus wrote the Constitution, WMDs were found in Iraq, Muslims and atheists are constantly persecuting the small Christian minority, Ayn Rand was a Christian, Thomas Jefferson wanted a theocracy, and acceptance of evolution doesn't exist except in academia and the government. It's like Bizarro world only more bizarre.
right, that does it, i refuse to believe this person could actually have honestly earned a doctorate in astrophysics. he might have one, but if he can't even see the hard evidence behind evolution, then i call shenanigans as to his own credentials' worthiness. either that, or there's some sort of early-onset dementia going on.
One thing I enjoy about working on university campuses is meeting grad students from other parts of the world. They are almost universally shocked when I tell them about the way that Americans view evolution.
We can't get the biggest governments of the world to agree on what to do about climate change, religious freedom, human rights, or social safety net, but Jason believes that there is some sort of underhanded collusion between the governments of the world to keep evolution as a scientific paradigm against all evidence for....some reason.
Ok, I realize Jason is a presuppositionalist (pronounced: insane liar), but this is dumb even for him. The theory of evolution is so well supported by scientific evidence that many creationists have stopped arguing it and instead, like Jason, they literally play semantic word games over abstract concepts. They only discuss the abstract world, because the physical world sure as hell doesn't have any trace of their god.
Most Christians outside of America accept the theory of evolution, as I'm sure Anon-e-moose will be pointing out. But that's what happens when you live inside an echo chamber your whole life; you can believe things that are easily demonstrated to be false based on the imagined authority of your ring leader.
I won't even go into "evolutionism".
It's called Biology, silly, and it's not a belief system. It has some 98 percent of scientists as followers. It's just as healthy as photosynthesisism. For the umpteenth time; evolution has more scientific evidence and rational thinking behind it than almost all other theories, including gravity, and it enjoys the exact same "special protection under the law" as gravity does.
Evolution is not a belief system any more than algebra is.
There are mountains of evidence for evolution, you just need to get your head out of your ass.
Did you mistake a mercury barometer for a pipette in science class, Jason?
Edit: @ dionysus:
You nailed it! He's from Bizarro Krypton! His real name is Lie-El!
Does this guy even live in the same reality as we do?
Evolution is not a belief, a lot more people accept it than you thibnk, healthy has nothing to do with it, it is quite proven and it has no "special protection", whatever the hell that means.
@dionysus - I think bizarro world makes more sense than whatever reality these guys live in/come from. At least Bizarro world works according to a simple, logical rule: everything's opposite.
Then please offer an alternative. Having been raised in an evangelical/religious right environment, I notice that creationists spend the majority of their time attacking evolution (and anything vaguely related to it, i.e. Big Bang, stellar formation, abiogenesis, etc.) while barely trying to justify their own "theory". Intelligent Design has failed in both science and the courts, Young Earth Creationism was laughed out of science centuries ago, where's the alternatives to "evolutionism"?
belief systems ... evolutionism ... scientific evidence and rational thinking
One of those doesn't fit in there... the fact that a belief system runs on faith, which is what you use when you DON'T have evidence or rationality, kinda hints at which it is...
My comment over there (in moderation for now)
"Let's see: Which is the belief system that requires a "statement of faith" again? Creationism.
Read Ronald Number's book <i>The Creationists</i>. Henry Morris was whining so much about losing people to actual science once they went off to university that he decided to implement a statement of faith where they promise to disregard out of hand any evidence that went against what you people have already decided to believe."
@the_ignored,
Don't hold your breath. My experience with presuppositionalists is that if they allow you to comment at all, it will only be for one or two comments, after which you'll be banned, creating the impression to readers that you were left speechless by his powerful arguments.
You don't know how being an endangered species works. If we chose to focus a large amount of resources on exterminating a single species, it would not be able to compete with that. Designating species as endangered is our attempt to shield them from further damage and hopefully allow them to recover, because the loss of a species due to human exploitation has negative consequences on culture, science, and the ecosystem.
Also, belief systems aren't species.
"Other belief systems survive because they are supported or confirmed by scientific evidence and rational thinking. Not so with evolution."
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"It survives only because it enjoys special protection under the law..."
I think you meant to write Christianity and/or Creationism, champ.
“Among the belief systems of the world, evolutionism can be classified as an endangered species.”
"Though it has many followers,”
“it is not a “healthy” belief that can survive on its own.”
"Other belief systems survive because they are supported or confirmed by scientific evidence and rational thinking.”
"Not so with evolution.”
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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