Is it perhaps because evolution does not have a scientific or logical leg to stand on, and that the more knowledgeable evolution adherents KNOW THAT and only adhere to it because they prefer its MORAL implications?
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Here we have an example of a post that could simultaneously get the Pot & Kettle award as well as the Fundamentalism in a Nutshell award, yet would be hard-pressed to get the latter individually.
This remarkable specimen illustrates the principle of superposition as applied to the fundie mind.
For next lecture, please read up on "The Influence of Church on State: How an Entire Society can go Insane".
...sorry, exams on the brain.
"Is it perhaps because religion does not have a scientific or logical leg to stand on, and that the more knowledgeable Christian adherents KNOW THAT and only adhere to it because they prefer its MORAL implications?"
There, fixed.
Sadly, what he's trying to say is all scientists know evolution is crap, but go along with or even promote the lie because they want to burn eternally in hell in return for a little bit of sinning right now. (because those scientists sure know how to party)
Extremely sadly in fact!
Essentially, the only way he can acknowledge their viewpoint existing is to delude himself into thinking it must match in with his own limited understanding of the universe.
0/10. Try going to school. Preferably a secular one.
What moral implications, dolt? That morality isn't based around the whims of a sky faerie? That morality has no loopholes (if you happen to be Kantian)? That morality doesn't have anything to do with fear of eternal punishment, but rather what is right? Those implications?
Oh, wait. My bad, those have nothing to do with evolution, and everything to do with Atheism. Back to the first question: what moral implications, idiot-boy?
So, what are the moral implications of Einstein's theory of relativity -- that reaching the speed of light is a sin for anything but light? For that matter, what are the scientific implications of the Biblical account of the Flood -- apart from the obvious inanity of the story, that is?
Science is about what IS, not about how we want things to be, nor about any kind of "moral implications." Religion deals with morality, not about how the universe works. Please don't try to mix the two; unlike chocolate and peanut butter, this mixture is downright toxic.
~David D.G.
Falsehood, falsehood, falsehood with implication everyone in the world secretly agrees with you but is just 'naughty' and 'rebellious' because no one could ever see the world differently.
In case you hadn't guessed, the answer to your question is 'no', followed by me laughing.
I thought those demonic, "worldly" scientists had no morals.
Make up your minds, people!
There are no moral implications to evolution. Things and creatures adapt to their changing environment. That's it. And it has both a scientific and a logical leg to stand on.
Please learn sentence structure. You are missing the conclution. Because this and that and that, what happens?
Without evolution, most biology is reduced to a string of random unconnected facts. Do note, also, that it -has- no moral implications to prefer. Never has, never will, doesn't need them.
Oh the irony of a fundie telling me that I adhere to something I know to be untrue only for moral reasons. That may be how it works in fundieland, dickweed, but not out here in the sane world.
(Not that I claim to be a very knowledgeable evolution "adherent", but then I don't need to be a knowledgeable gravity "adherent" either).
Erm, no, because it has no MORAL implications.
Sure, it doesn't have one scientific or logical leg to stand on; it has multiple legs of both categories to stand on.
It resembles more a bed of nails, than a flamingo with one leg under his wings.
well since Gods laws are so respected by Christians that none are ever broken , we must live in a utopian society of love, brotherhood and niceness. No rape,no theft, no adultery, no mixed fibres, no shellfish and no work on the sabbath.
hmmmm
nope, Christian morality must be flawed for Christians to not follow it. Jesus must be embarrased that so many of his followers are in prison.
“Is it perhaps because evolution does not have a scientific or logical leg to stand on,”
Evolution is full up on science.
If you’re find it illogical, you may be using an inaccurate description of evolution to analyze logically. Like throwing in abiogenesis or the Big Bang, or a strawman of either.
I mean if you start with the misunderstanding that Big Bang Theory states that everything came from nothing, or the idea that evolution is completely random, then you’re just poisoning the well irresponsibly, and your conclusions can’t count for shit.
"and that the more knowledgeable evolution adherents KNOW THAT”
Ah, so once more, evolution is a BIG CONSPIRACY. So big it’s got all biologists included. And an entire host of other specialities that either depend on the ToE are back it up.
So many conspirators that it moves from ‘a conspiracy’ to ‘the state of affairs.’ Then why bother to flog it?
“and only adhere to it because they prefer its MORAL implications?”
Evolutionary theory offers no moral implications, no more than any other science such as the speed of light propagation through a vacuum, or the ‘holes flow’ theory of electricity, or the gravitational effects of the Moon upon Earth’s tides.
Dishonest creationists insist that it’s a godless science, but all science is secular by its very nature. They’re all neutral on the subjects of gods.
So, as stated above: No.
Longer answer: Fuck no.
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