Correction. J.R.R Tolkein was a Roman Catholic, not a Christian. It says so in letters he wrote. LOTR is as dangerous as "The Passion of the Christ" movie.
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see, this I like. When kids are being ignorant, I can get past it. I can think - they'll grow up, get some experience, learn a little - and they won't be tools. I'm only depressed when 47 year olds spout crap like this.
And yet, they always love to tell you how Christians are in the majority in the US, and how it's a Christian nation. Not if you don't count the Catholics, it isn't.
Fundies consider us catholics to be pagans and will deny until they are blue in the face that THEIR church as any connection whatsoever to the RC (this in spite of the fact that they celebrate Christmas on Dec. 25th, recognize Sunday as the sabbath, and a few other catholic "inventions". I have even heard these fundies claim that St. Patrick was a Southern Baptist (I kid you not)!!
Again with the "Catholics aren't Christian" rant. Give it up, people, their interpretation of the Bible is as valid as anyone else's, and while it is true that unspeakable acts were perpetrated in the name of the Catholic Church in the past, that was in the past. It's as ridiculous as blaming current white folks in America for slavery, or the Egyptians for Pharaoh's mistreatment of the Jews in the OT.
Roman Catholics, eastern (Greek, Russian, Ukranian, etc.) Orthodox and Coptics are all Christians. Some fanatic Baptists have deluded themselves to believe that their religion traces back to Jesus and is not a "protestant" sect or offshoot of Catholicism. Only Baptists themselves actually buy their convoluted arguments. Arguing with them on the point would be like arguing about evolution with JohnR7.
You know, I'd just love to sign up on that message board to bitch-slap some of these idiots, but after the first post I'd be banned since original thought and disagreement are strictly prohibited under the terms of use.
I mean that seriously. Check the board rules...
There are a few Baptist churches in the USA that claim that their church is a direct-line descendant of the churches that rejected the perversions and satanic misinformation of the early Catholic and Orthodox churches. They claim that a "true" church has always existed and been persecuted and hounded by the other "Fallen" churches throughout history. They claim this "true" church is them, and all other denominations are simply satanic cults.
They are a kind of superfundie.
How is it that Cathoholics, who believe in God, the divinity of Jesus, and accept the Bible, can be classified as anything other than Christians?
J.R.R Tolkein was a Roman Catholic, not a Christian
That's like saying "that's a square, not a quadrilateral."
All Christian sects are spin-offs of Roman Catholicism because they protested (thus Protestant) RC dogma in some way.
Eastern Orthodox has a slightly different history, but other than that you've pretty much covered it.
Fundie lesson:
When the protestant reformation began, the Catholic church tried to stop it with burning at the stake, drawing and quartering, iron maidens, sawing people in half etc.
Some of the protestants, not willing to give up their silliness and also not willing to be martyrs fled to America. There they told their children how the romish church of satan burned christians at the stake, sawed them in half, stretched them on racks etc.
This meme was inherited by many protestant sects that originated in America. The baptists didn't invent it,
but the Southern Baptists are the sect with the most powerful combination of size, loonyness and access to government power, so they are the most often heard.
According to this myth, Satan tried to destroy christianity by getting the romans to feed them to lions. When 300 years of this showed no sign of working, satan invented the Roman Catholic church. It was similar to god's One True Faith in many ways so as to suck in people who didn't know the difference, but the romans, now calling themselves christians, continued to attack and klll "real" christians.
One actual true fact(not a fundy out of the ass fact) is the fact that the Catholic pope is called the pontiff.
In the pre christian roman empire the most senior priest of the empire was called the pontifex maximus, latin for highest priest. When the roman empire became officially christian, he was still the pontifex maximus, he just changed gods. 2K years later pontfex maximus has mutated onto pontiff, so fundy idiocy \\The catholic church is a false church created by satan to destroy chistianity.\\fundy idiocy
@Blurb
How the fuck can a movie be dangerous?
It may make you think, which is one of the most grievous sins.
Katy-Ann is delusional.
FEAR. The great paralyzer. It's a pity you are part of a "loving" religion that expounds nothing but fear.
Just keep repeating to yourself.
It's only a movie,
It's only a movie,
It's only a movie,
It's only a movie.
I have an aunt who, upon seeing the Passion, said that she was glad she had done so but she wouldn't care to see it again.
I heartily agree. I think the damn movie's far too graphic and violent. Now, the LOTR movies are graphic and violent, but that's because long discussions and exchanges of song (which the books are built around) don't appeal to very many people. The books themselves don't have very many descriptions of just exactly how each orc or uruk is hewn in twain.
I, myself, find LOTR slightly dull because Tolkien is writing in a different idiom than a lot of modern fantasy writers. I don't read Beowulf for fun (although I might if I had the Seamus Heaney translation), and LOTR is in some parts quite obviously following that tradition.
Gaahhh... long-winded expounditure! But, what else is my English degree good for? It ain't earning me money!
Isn't it funny how Catholics aren't Christians until some fundtard wants to claim that Christianity has the most followers or the US is a majority Christian country. At which point those 1.2 billion followers worldwide, 70 million in the US, are suddenly welcomed back into the fold, along with all those other "misled" branches that have momentarily become useful for another round of argumentum ad populum .
Because if the Catholics aren't Christians, and the Mormons aren't Christians, then at most only 49.5% of US adults were Christians (2008 figures), and that figure is falling.
So the US isn't a Christian country in establishment, nor one by majority. Most Americans are non-Christians, by Katy-Ann's standards, whatever they themselves might think.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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