[Q: Why is it that some people hold the holocaust against the Jews?]
Jews have rejected Jesus. Therefore, they cannot expect many good things to come their way.
Yes, this is politically incorrect. But it is spiritual truth.
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"Yes, this is politically incorrect. But it is spiritual truth. "
Spiritual truth = theoligically correct lie.
You'll make a good soldier for the Christian Identity. A racist, anti semitic terrorist organisation. You anti Semitic fuck. And I know many who have rejected Jesus but live wonderful lives and thus should expect good things and love in their direction. And I know people who accepted Jesus but act like cunts. They should not
If it wasn't for those 'Jews killing Jesus', you wouldn't have a religion, would you? One more thing: Jesus was a Jew too.
And the Holocaust was the result of the paranoia of a subhuman Austrian shortarse with a dorky moustache & ideas above his station, who read the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" and believed what it said. But then Neo-Nazism, like Anti-Semitism & religion is tailor-made for the intellectually inferior moron like you, Soldier for Salvation, because it does the thinking for you.
Neo-Nazism is made of subhuman and eternal FAIL.
Jews have been kicked around by the ancient empires of Babylon, Persia, Greece, Rome, Nazi [i know, i know]....
Like the Dude, the Jews abide. Where are those ancient empires now? Seems to be a jinx on anyone who kicks the Jews around.
The State of Israel, on the other hand, needs a makeover.
@Valheru: some fundies are on record saying that the Old Testament people, as well as Jesus himself were not Jews but Israelites. Therefore, fundies hold Israelites in high respect but don't necessarily like Jews.
Makes perfect sense.
How many Jews did Jesus ever make actual contact with? I would reckon a few hundred at most. There was no radio, no Tv, no newpapers, printing hadn't been invented, nor had loudspeakers or microphones.
Your argument is based on pure anti-semitism as practised by the parent church down the ages - I mean the Catholics. And then the proestants took it up too. They laid down the foundations of the holocaust over 1700 years. Now you are carrying it on. Well, you beloved Jesus was a Jew as was his mother and his family. So you are persecuting the people God chose as his family.
So in effect, you spiritual truth ends up inside the gas chambers and the oves of the concentration camps.
Nice one! Nice religion! Nice person.
Oh, btw, which branch of the KKK do you belong to?
(Chi)
Nor do I. To borrow a quote from (appropriately enough) American History X , "life is too short to go around pissed off all the time".
(Valheru)
I agree, but it's properly spelled "Jack Daniel's" (omitting the apostrophe is a common mistake, but a mistake just the same; check the label sometime).
Y'know, this pisses me off. A person says the Jews brought the holocaust onto themselves, and they will get a strip torn off them by everyone and their dog. Someone says something like this, however, and tucks such a sentiment under a page or two of the Bible, and it's safe, because, y'know, they're just stating their belief according to their faith.
"Jews have rejected Jesus"
And lots of others both before and since..
What's it like to know you follow someone who was found wanting?
The same spiritual truth as when the Romans were burning christians on crosses on the Appian way. The same spiritual truth as when Lon Nol led the massacre of nearly 2 million Cambodians - including teachers, professors, clergy, people who wore glasses, artisans, and anyone with a high school eduation.
Shove spiritual truth up your ass far enough and it comes out of your nose. Good luck with that.
Yeah, yeah, it's always the victims fault. I can fuck anyone over I want and it's their fault because Jesus let me do it.
Anyway, a lot of the Jews that died in the holocaust were not practicing Jews, hell some were good Christians that happened to have a Jewish ancestor along the way. Do a little research before you open your trap.
@ Valheru You do not follow the path of Captian Morgan? HEATHEN! BURN IN HELL!
Edit:
According to (some of) the scriptures, he was wandering around with an entourage of thousands. According to Paul, Jesus appeared to 5,000 people when he rose from the dead.
Somehow, I think the Romans would of documented something like that. But hey, that's just me.
"Jews have rejected Jesus. Therefore, they cannot expect many good things to come their way."
Especially when the people who accept Jesus make sure to send as many bad things their way as possible, in order for justice to be served. Truly doing the Lord's work....
@ Antichrist,
Jesus is not even a blip on Roman Radar, to use an anachronism. OK I concede a few thousand... but so what. There were far more Jews in the diaspora - in Alexandria alone, never mind Cyrene and the other regions of the Empire. In Rome itself the Transtiberim (Italian Trastevere) was home to multitudes of them. Bear in mind there were over a million people living in the city at that time. So perhaps Jesus was born in the wrong place?
You know, the Jews overall could make a pretty good case that Jesus wasn't the Messiah. Of course that gets into arguments over Septuagint vs Masoretic texts, interpretation of prophecy, misinterpretation of things that aren't actually propechy, yada yada yada...
Long story short, if I wasn't an atheist by now I'd seriously consider Judaism.
So, why did God allow Christians to be sent to concentration camps as well?, or to die in Dresde, for that matter.
Unfortunately it does no good to point out to these people that according to THEIR own beliefs:
1) According to the Christian interpretation of the messiah, he was supposed to be rejected by his people. So if the Jews did not reject Jesus then Jesus would not have qualified to be the messiah (and yet I have never gotten a "thank you" for this).
2) Jesus said, while on the cross, "Forgive them for they know not what they do" so I don't think he was holding a grudge.
Of course, arguing against the insane "logic" of "Soldier for Salvation" is wasted effort since even if we Jews are doomed for rejecting Jesus, then that would still be a matter for Judgement day and the afterlife and would have nothing to do with the here-and-now as is the case with worldly events.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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