[On a blog post about how scary Chick tracts are to kids]
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So, you'd have children exposed to murder, mutilation, and torture in order to prevent murder, mutilation and torture. Makes perfect sense.... (rolls eyes)
"The Bible declares “the fear of the LORD is the beginning of Wisdom” or Knowledge."
Only because it leads people to question, and after deducing how ludicrous it all is, hopefully develop a healthy agnostic detachment.
"I would to GOD"...
You would what to God? You have missing word syndrome.
My parents made their fortune in the iron and steel industries. Mom ironed all day and dad went out at night and stole stuff. Chick traCTs scare the hell out of me, and I'm 68 years old, because so many dumb asses buy into that shit.
"fearless murderings, steelings, fornications & body mutilatings."
Really? Other than 'steelings' (Seriously, what are they steeling themselves against?), I'd say those 'kids' are doing exactly what the bible teaches them to do, even with the fanfiction Gary Stu/Marty Stu that is Jesus Christ thrown in there. And of course we can't forget what you and the rest of your ilk most likely beat into yours...
“the fear of the LORD is the beginning of Wisdom”
Yup, that's in the Bible, right there in Psalm 111.10. That phrase has been a favorite for milleniums and some of us know it as "initium sapientiae timor Domini".
But, the word used for "fear" (yr') is not the same word used for fearing one's enemies, but is used for the type fear which includes a sense a reverence. The rest of Psalm 111 speaks about God's grace and goodness.
Wisdom and knowledge are not mutually interchangeable. By carelessly substituting "wisdom" (tkmh) with "knowledge", Jake is willfully falsifying the Bible. But that's par for the course for your average fundamentalist.
But Jake doesn't know any of this and he never will.
I never saw a chick tract when I was a kid. I have never murdered, stole, or mutilated anyone. As for fornication, none of yo business.
@Whatever
"Would" is sometimes used in the archaic or literary sense of "expressing a wish or regret", as in "would that he had lived to finish it". So Jake is actually not missing any words in that sentence. He does, however, have some spelling errors ("puting", "steelings") and awkward phrasing ("murderings" instead of "murders", "mutilatings" instead of "mutilations").
Also, in quite nice, Christian families in our German/American neighborhood, it was de rigeur to eat stolen coffee cake for Christmas.
@NoriMori
Would can be used in that sense, but the sentence structure is off for that. Jack is too much of an idiot to understand subtlety like that.
It makes a lot more sense that he actually meant to type "wish" instead of "would"
Sorry Jake. I just dont see any "fearless murderings, steelings, fornications & body mutilatings" occuring among kids.
So, you're a would-be terrorist?
This quote was attributed to Socrates by Plato:
"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they allow disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children now are tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.”
Yeah. Those kids these days! You're old, Jake.
I know it's off topic, but has anyone else noticed that the newer chick tracts don't mak as much sense as the used to(Which really isn't saying much, but still.)? I mean, before it seemed like he was kind of trying, now I'm wondering if the old guy is going senile.
I once read somewhere that guilt and fear are the most powerful tools to brainwash people.
BTW, knowledge and wisdom are two different things, and it's just too bad much of your Bible actually perverts the latter.
Fear is the beginning of ignorance, not wisdom.
@breakerslion
Much as Plato et al are revered in the modern world, we can apparently thank them for setting science back by at least a few centuries due to their fanatical devotion to epistemic secrecy.
I highly doubt that 99% of the world's population outside of America has even heard of Chick and his bullshit. I know that I hadn't, before I started posting on this site.
But we don't see millions of teenagers running riot and killing everyone in their path, do we? Nor do I see how you can be going through Hell because complete strangers are screwing each other and/or having their bodies pierced. Even if they're doing it in the house next door to yours.
OK, so maybe they could be scary to kids (except for maybe atheist kids), but to adults, whether atheist or moderate theist, they're basically miniature joke books.
"I'm glad the track scared the hell out of you as a kid...."
Yes, if it isnt the old "Scaring kids for christ" tactic. Fear is a great motivator. Not surprising that christinsanes use it. It is a great crowd controller. Makes it easy to manipulate your flock. When you demand money (tithing) or work of some sort, it is much easier to demand instead of beg when you have the weapon of fear. So as your flock is clambering to stay out of eternal damnation, your job is to capitalize that fear into your political and social control of others. I find it interesting that the gospel message of "faith, hope and love" is fully backed up and presented with the raw application of fear.
It was all the scary talk about all the things God did to punish people (hell, global flood, drowning the Egyptians pursuing the Israelites across the Red Sea, destroying Sodom & Gomorrah) not to mention things like God commanding Abraham to kill Isaac and all the scary end of the world stuff which started to turn me off from religion. Maybe some scary Chick Tracts will convince kids that anyone who believes in Christianity is nuts.
If there's anyone out there who doesn't think that Jack Chick is completely insane, I give you the most (in)famous tract he ever wrote, "Lisa":
http://www.fmh-child.org/Lisa/Lisa1.html
Apparently it's OK if you sexually abuse your daughter as long as you ask Jesus for forgiveness.
Like anyone should take advice from a man who literally believes Satan controls television, the PTA is populated by witches, D&D groups excommunicate players whose characters die, (and who subsequently commit suicide from social isolation,) and that atheists can't finish a sentence without threatening to throw someone in jail.
No, really. This guy is imbalanced. Just plain delusional with tendancies towards compulsive fantasizing.
Scared and the fear of God are two entirely separate things, dumbass.
Scared shitless isn't the same as it's not respect, it's fear in it's basic meaning
Was never exposed to Chick Tracts as a kid...
Was exposed to discipline like spankings and disappointment if I did stupid shit.
Turns out murder is bad, steelings (I'm assuming he meant stealing) is subjectively wrong, fornication is hella fun, and body mutilations... Well, tattoos and piercings are sexy when done right.
OH, and I didn't need a book that sponsors death by stoning to figure out all of that. Hmmm...
Take your Chick Tracts and shove them up your ass.
Further proof the fundies shouldn't raise kids.
Children do not need to listen to those to turn out as moral people who do not kill, steal, ect.
Also; it is spelled stealing not "steelings"
You know what scares the hell out of me? It is that the only thing stopping Jake from killing, steelings (sic), fornications (sic), and body mutilations, is fear of punishment from an imaginary being.
“the fear of the LORD is the beginning of Wisdom”
This is the matra of the habitually stupid making excuses for being so overtly stupid.
Palin, Bachman, Beck, O'reilly, Rove. Cheney, W's writters, many Evangelical and Baptist leaders have all used this one. Because there is no wisdom within that paranoid stance but it gives them a semblance of intelligence by default, they think.
because they really don't think, they parrot and expect quoting the Bible is enough to gain trust. Unfortunately that's been proven statistically to be a quarter of the American actual voters.
“I would to GOD all our Kids had the hell scared out them so that they would stop puting the rest of us through hell”
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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