To suggest you don't believe in God is to suggest that the whole world has been confounded by evil and mother time herself.
So, tell me. It's 2009 to us Christians. What year is it for you since you don't believe in Jesus?
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13,700,000,000
Where have you been?
What the hell is 'mother time'?
First we get 'Come, Lord Jesus!' Then 'I wanna be the Bride of Christ!'
What is this? Incest corner?
And don't even start me on 'Abraham's bosom'...
What the fucking kind of logic is that?
By the way, it's 2552 B.E. (Budhist Era) for us here, thank you.
"To suggest you don't believe in God is to suggest that the whole world has been confounded by evil and mother time herself."
Oh, look. A two-for-one deal. It's both a non-sequitur and nonsense.
"So, tell me. It's 2009 to us Christians. What year is it for you since you don't believe in Jesus?"
2009. Why, what did you think it would be? And what's with the non-sequitur parade you've got going here?
I prefer 2009 in the Common Era, but AD doesn't bother me either. Now, if I could remember how to use my Mayan calendar, at least I'd be a hell of a lot more accurate.
I agree - why is this a big deal? Do you have different hours of the day too?
(Painful)
Perhaps, but remember: in another 45 months, that calendar will be obsolete. *soft chuckle*
Funny, how some fundies are now stretching to make their Rapture/Armageddon theories seem plausible, to the extent of even using the calendar of the very pagan Aztec culture to support them. *chuckles some more*
It's 1430 to the Muslims. What year is it for you since you don't believe in Mohamed?
Makes just as much sense, i.e. none.
Wow...the stupid never ends.
I believe in Jesus (I'm being baptized in about 7 hours as a matter of fact), but my faith doesn't need to be validated by the rest of the world. My faith doesn't even need to be validated by the calendar. And I don't need everyone else to agree with my faith. I also believe that the part of the Gospel where Jesus told us not to judge others meant that we are not to judge others. But I've heard a hell of a lot of Fundies talk circles around that until it means they should definitely judge others.
To all the people of other faiths and people of no faith here at FTSDT: you can use whatever calendar you want and celebrate whatever holidays you want. That has no bearing on my faith.
This crap is why I ran at a hard sprint away from the private school I once taught at when it was taken over by Fundies.
It can be any year I chose it to be. The Egyptians did not have a single point reference for their calendar. They dated by the regnal year of the king.
As it happens the West dates from the supposed birth of Jesus. But even here they got it wrong. As Jesus is reported to have been born 'in the days of Herod, the King', he had to be born at least before 4 BCe, as that is Herod's year of death. The calendar, therefore is out by at least 4 (possible up to 7 ) years. So...what does a calendar have to do with Jesus? Nothing. He was a mere approximate point in time reference.
Nothing religious Aerohead.
mother time
Wait, when did Father Time have a sex change?
So, tell me. It's 2009 to us Christians. What year is it for you since you don't believe in Jesus?
Month 2, Day 7, 35 Y.M. (Year of Marc)
To suggest you don't believe in God is to suggest that the whole world has been confounded by evil and mother time herself.
And the evidence that it hasn't?
What year is it for you since you don't believe in Jesus?
Well, let's see. For Jews, it's 5769. For the Chinese, it's 4707. For Muslims, it's 1430. For business purposes, it's 2009 CE (common era)
@solomongrundy
If you pity me for my faith, which is not fundie and very personal to me, and you are intolerant of my choice to live a life of faith...then how you are better than the fundies who pity and do not tolerate your choice of no faith?
Faith is a private choice. To choose to live in any faith is deeply personal whether you are a Hindu, Jew, Buddhist, Catholic...whatever. And to choose to live without faith is a deeply personal choice as well. I would never judge your choices or declare them "sad". To do so would be adopting the judgmentalism of the Fundies that we all abhor.
But to expect reasonable dialogue here was asking a lot, I suppose.
Why it's 2000 years, more or less, since Jesus broke his promise to return within the lifetime of his disciples.
P.S.: I heard that Mother Nature and Mother Time have a thing going on. Sometimes they double date with Lady Liberty and Lady Justice.
To suggest I don't believe in God (or any other gods, actually) only suggests that I also believe the world and everything in it and outside of it came about by some other means than god(s) and the manner in which we live should be governed by recognition that others are fundamentally our equals (no matter what they look like or believe) and suffer as much as we do so we should refrain as much as possible from intentionally causing any such suffering.
And it's still 2009 because that's the calendar that is generally agreed upon by the western world. You haven't looked into the history of the calendar though, have you?
I base my calendar off the formation of the Earth, so it's the year 4,540,000,000, give or take 45,400,000 years.
My personal calendar says it's the 24th day of the Wind season, year 5 of the fifteenth century AS as by the Reformed Timekeeping Guild. Any questions?
mother time
Its 43 AC(After Cryonics). James Bedford, the first man frozen through cryonics was frozen on January 12th 1967. Counting 1967 as year 1 this would be year 43.
When the first person is thawed decades from now with the help of nanotechnology it will have such a great impact on our society that this date will be important enough to start a new calendar so Christians enjoy having your calendar being the main calendar while it lasts.
"What year is it for you since you don't believe in Jesus?"
Well, let's see. I stopped believing in Jesus when I was 19 and now I'm 51, so that would make it year 32 for me.
To suggest you don't believe in God is to suggest that the whole world has been confounded by evil
No, it suggests that your kind has been confounded by ignorance and stupidity.
and mother time herself
WTF?
What year is it for you since you don't believe in Jesus?
What does it matter? I don't think the year being dated from 5 years after the supposed birth of jesus to be a great debating point for your religion.
It's also 2009.
You should really fix it, it's a fucking mess, and Jesus wasn't even born in 0 BC or 0 ad or whatever the fuck it's called.
Let's standardize on Unix epoch time and then build a power of 10 system on that, to fit with metric.
Doomie got there first, but what day is it for you since you don't worship the sun, moon, Tiw, Odin, Thor or Frig? For that matter what planet are you from?
Considering the best current archaeological evidence suggests the Gregorian calendar has Christ's birth several decades off the mark, these fundies need to start rolling their calendars back, while the rest of us enjoy our calendars based on an inconsequential point in history.
217, according to the French Revolutionary Calendar (Tridi, 23 Germinal 217, if you want to be precise)
Or Heisei 21, if you are Japanese.
The year 45 ADW (After Doctor Who), of course.
The Year One began on what you Christians would call 23rd Nov 1963.
What year is it for you since you don't believe in Jesus?
I believe in Jesus, but I'm currently subscribing to the Ancient Roman calendar. This year is therefore 2762 AUC (Ab Urbis Condite) to me!.
1:46 PM CST
My world started with me. There is no proven existence outside of myself. I am here and prove it because "I think therefore I am" (Avoiding easy joke about you). Since I have no solid proof outside of myself except for what my senses tell me, and having to take for granted that my senses are not lying to me, I just have to assume that, yeah...29 years is right.
Better explanations, see:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfBcYa1K718&feature=related
and
the Supreme Ruler of the Universe near the end of "Restaurant at the End of the Universe" by Douglas Adams.
According to various Calendars, today is either...
2011 CE, 2011 Common Era, or just 2011.
Fun fact: Buddhism first reached China around 1 CE. Jesus was born around 4 BC. Try chewing on THAT logic for a little while ;)
“It's 2009 to us Christians. What year is it for you since you don't believe in Jesus?”
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