[Responding to a post asking why zygotes have souls but eggs and sperm don't]
Attempting to see the line of thinking here...
No, they would not have souls before they were conceived. The reason being is that their DNA (which actually makes them human) has not come to be yet. They only have half of the genetic material needed. The X and the Y must unite to complete the DNA sequence of that specific individual. The most you could argue for is that the sperm has half a soul and the egg the other half and there is no telling which halves would end up together.
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Brian's uterus is still in the mail I see.
So let's see. hundreds of millions of half souls go to waste everytime a soul does actually form in an egg?
nuns and priests waste all their souls?
souls make good skin toner?
random splicing doesn't actually occur and you can only ever have sex with your soul mate or else the pieces don't fit together and pregnancy, especially through rape is impossible?
cloning and asexual reproduction is impossible?
you share half your soul with your biological father and half your soul with your biological mother?
indentical twins only have one soul?
you have no idea about DNA or chromosomes or fertilization do you? You've picked up a few words Sierra's rammed down your gullet and that's about it. You want to believe and will come up with any preposterous garbage that makes sense in your tiny, tiny, tiny little mind!
There's two schools of thought!
1. Souls are a load of crap made up by people who can't understand consciousness fully.
2. The big sky daddy implants a soul at conception.
Pick one and STFU!!!
Please tell me that Brian is an infant who has yet to study Biology at any level. I'll just check the thread...
No, it seems Brian is a 32-year-old idiot who is somehow able to type. He probably even has a university degree - to type something that stupid, one must have been through higher education.
Mr. Turquoise
I knew it, women are evil. Soulles creatures that hey are.
But just consider this, if everyone consists of 2 "halve" souls, does this mean that a murderer has 2 evil parts? Bipolar people have a happy and a depressed part? Good people only have 2 "nice" parts?
This would explain so much. I suggest you work out that theory and send it to nature or osmething.
The presence of DNA makes one human?
They have HALF of genetic material needed?
The sperm and egg each have half a soul?
Brian, due to your utter refusal to convey the lessons taught to you in an intelligent manner, we regret to inform you that you will be repeating the fifth grade. You will also be attending summer school. We hope these actions might help you along in future grades and in life in general.
Thank you
Sincerely, the Principle of Lincoln Grade School
"No, they would not have souls before they were conceived. The reason being is that their DNA (which actually makes them human) has not come to be yet."
First, please prove that the soul actually exists.
"They only have half of the genetic material needed. The X and the Y must unite to complete the DNA sequence of that specific individual."
So, only males have souls?
"The most you could argue for is that the sperm has half a soul and the egg the other half and there is no telling which halves would end up together."
Unless you are asserting that some persons are conceived by a union of two sperm, we certainly know that one half of the genetic material is in the egg.
Then how do you explain homosexuals? Ah, when two sperm souls bind or two ovum .. well, they can't so there can only be male homosexuals. But if that were so then all this genetic material was designed by god, created by god, and allowed to deviate by god so homosexuals are designed by god! Not sure what to make of lesbians though but does it matter? After all, women have no souls, that's why they generally raise the children while the male gets to go off and mingle with the other soul-bearing humans.
Well. Now that I've proven homosexuals are created by god and therefore in gods good graces, I think next I'll tackle illegal aliens and how their UFO's are exploding dinosaurs all over the planet ...
Well, that's pretty fucktarded, Brian.
Seems to me that God would waste a LOT of souls doing it your way. Just think of all the miscarriages that occur naturally all the time.
Why not wait until the pregnacy is full term and the child is born before bestowing it a soul, as some cultures believe? Personally, I think it's all bullshit, but it would seem to be more logical bullshit that way.
Later on in the thread, Brian said, "It's late and I am doing laundry and packing... I hope you can figure out what I meant. Yes, I didn't type out each situation. I realize that now that you brought it up. Ooops. I think most people knew what I meant, anyway..."
So he does admit that he missed referring to the possibility of XX souls.
What I can tell from your arguement-
1) XY come together? I'm sensing a self-unaware misogynist here!
2) Gay sex makes babies too, because a half and a half makes a whole (hey, there's no telling which halves would end up together, right?).
Wait, wait, I think I understand it now. It's not whether or not a person or a zygote has "a soul," it's that Brian is an "asshole."
I won't stand for this kind of soulism! People are always protesting the destruction of souls through abortion, and nobody seems to care about the poor little half-souls! Soul-ial discrimination is a blight upon our society! Remember, you can't spell 'half-soul' without 'soul'!
If DNA makes a soul, then you have to explain why humans have souls and animals, all of which have DNA, a few of which are over 95% genetically similar to us. Is there a 'soul gene'?
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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