Man has broken God's commands and has fallen into a sinful state. He is deserving of death already so God can punish them through death any time he pleases.
If you are going to claim the God is immoral for "murdering" you do not accept that they bible teaches that man is deserving of death b/c if you have accepted that this is the case you will realize God is absolutely justified in killing everyone.
Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
God is just in killing whom Hi desires b/c His own if His law is broken then the punishment is death. For you to call God evil for punishing man for breaking His law is you calling into question whether His law is just.
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For you to call God evil for punishing man for breaking His law[,] is [are]you calling into question whether His law is just[?]
No, we're questioning that the Bible speaks for God, and that you (and that hate-filled, misogynist dipwit, Paul) have even interpreted it correctly. If human law put people to death for trivial things like gossiping or looking at an attractive woman, we'd consider that law harsh and bloodthirsty. We even have a word for it: "draconian". Even the Taliban have more mercy than God of the Bible.
...calling into question whether his His law is just.
This person lurches around in the dark, bumping into things, and manages to come up with an accurate observation. (Well, it would be accurate if there were a God.)
god arbitrarily punishes, rewards, and/or protects people by killing them.
From this, I can only guess that god has no plan other than killing. That's the main reason why every living person should ignore the little bastard.
Cool! I can kill anybody I want, because we all deserve to die!
...Wait, that's not what the Bible says. The Bible says "Thou shalt not kill".
Man has broken God's commands and has fallen into a sinful state. He is deserving of death already so God can punish them through death any time he pleases.
For you to call God evil for punishing man for breaking His law is you calling into question whether His law is just.
So, two people break god's "law" and he blames all of humanity for it?
Why would this all powerfull god put a forbbiden tree in the middle of a forest, knowing that it's inhabitants would eat it, and then punish all of humanity for two people's sin?
I'm sorry, I just don't see any "justice" in that.
"Man has broken God's commands and has fallen into a sinful state."
No, I didn't fall, I walked upright into the state of California.
"God is just in killing whom Hi desires b/c His own if His law is broken then the punishment is death. For you to call God evil for punishing man for breaking His law is you calling into question whether His law is just."
God, if he exists, provides no proof of his existence and leaves the cryptic, self-contradicting Bible, if it is his word, as instructions as to what he want and how people should live. If you mess up, you're bannished to eternal torture. You call that just? You suck rocks.
God's law is not moral and is not just. God's law is the law of an insane, evil, megolomaical dictator.
There is no difference between God's law and Stalin's law. Both ask for utter obedience, and both punish with death. But at least Stalin did it in the name of the people. God does it in his own name, and demonizes his creation in order to get away with it.
Man has broken God's commands and has fallen into a sinful state. He is deserving of death already so God can punish them through death any time he pleases.
Sorry... God made us to be like that, so that's his fault. Is God going to punish himself?
If you are going to claim the God is immoral for "murdering" you do not accept that they bible teaches that man is deserving of death b/c if you have accepted that this is the case you will realize God is absolutely justified in killing everyone.
Well, since God is at fault for all of this, then God is deserving of death more than Humans are... so, when will God punish himself?
God is just in killing whom Hi desires b/c His own if His law is broken then the punishment is death.
Then when is God going to kill himself as punishment for fucking things us when he created us? It's the only 'just' thing to do...
For you to call God evil for punishing man for breaking His law is you calling into question whether His law is just.
Until God takes the punishment for the way he fucked things up right at the start, his 'law' is most certainly unjust...
Man has broken God's commands and has fallen into a sinful state. He is deserving of death already so God can punish them through death any time he pleases.
Just based on this alone proves the christian god is a prick.
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@TheJebusFire -- "So, two people break god's "law" and he blames all of humanity for it?
Why would this all powerfull god put a forbbiden tree in the middle of a forest, knowing that it's inhabitants would eat it, and then punish all of humanity for two people's sin?
I'm sorry, I just don't see any "justice" in that."
This is why I view Satan as the LIBERATOR OF MANKIND. YHWH is fucking EVIL!
Your god is hypocritical. If such a being existed I wouldn't follow it. What would you say if a human being in power said this?
By the way it's "because" not "b/c"
(Ugh I hate b/c, w/o, etc, drives me nuts).
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"Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. "
The koran tells us that the bible is full of shit. Mujahideen are justified in killing you because Allah says so.
So God's kinda like Sweeney Todd?
"They all deserve to die.
Tell you why, Mrs. Lovett, tell you why.
Because in all of the whole human race
Mrs. Lovett, there are two kinds of men and only two
There's the one staying put in his proper place
And the one with his foot in the other one's face
Look at me, Mrs Lovett, look at you.
No, we all deserve to die
Tell you why, Mrs. Lovett, tell you why.
Because the lives of the wicked should be made brief
For the rest of us death will be a relief
We all deserve to die."
Holy fcuk! That is some bad grammar.
I do not recognize any crime bad enough to deserve the death penalty. Especially not whole countries dying just because a few have behaved bad according to some musty old fairy tale. And no, I do not accept what the bible teaches.
Almost all countries have laws stating that you cannot kill other human beings. But several also have laws stating that if you kill someone, we will kill you. The person executing the penalty is then also killing someone, should he not also be put to death?
So in other words, God is just like the plant in Little Shop of Horrors?
(Sorry, if @941299 could cite Sweeney Todd, I figured LSOH works just as well...)
I love how sin is so vague, so undefined that it's impossible NOT to. And even if they can't readily identify something you did that's sinful, they pull out the catch all of "You're human and fallible. Thus, you are sinful."
Well, if I make 'em, I can break 'em.
But that is not the idea. I am just plainly not yet done making the world.
For you to call God evil for punishing man for breaking His law is you calling into question whether His law is just.
That's perhaps the most annoying thing about fundies - even when they actually do get it, they still don't.
Obviously, this is crazy. But I still love these nut jobs who can base systematic murder, mass murder, on something that is presented with absolutely no evidence whatsoever. Seriously, what kind of mind thinks like this?
Man has broken God's commands and has fallen into a sinful state. He is deserving of death already so God can punish them through death any time he pleases.
OK, so there are 10 guys in a room who all have committed crimes:
#1 spit on the sidewalk.
#2 drove across the country raping and mutilating pre-schoolers.
#3 bought a counterfeit Rolex from a street vendor.
#4 overstated his charitable deductions.
#5 bludgeoned an old woman to death and tried to cover up his crime by burning down her apartment, killing another 14 people.
#6 hijacked a car.
#7 dumped his used oil down the storm sewer.
#8 used a fake ID to buy a six-pack of Coors
#9 shot a guy in the leg while stealing his cell phone.
#10 stole credit card numbers from his employer's records and sold them in the Internet.
Should all 10 get the same punishment?
Should all ten be sentenced to death?
If the secret police walk in, pick three of them at random and kill them, and let the others go, is that justice?
Is it "justice" to kill #1 and #3? Would it be justified because they broke man's laws?
Yeah, I'm totally swayed by the argument that I should follow a God that would kill me without a second thought for what appears to be no reason at all. What a grand display of love, to have all the upstanding morality of John Wayne Gacy!
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