Its impossible to "murder" a Communist, since the Natural Law tells us it is the right of any normal man to do away with people who are Communists, since Communists wish to expropriate and enslave all of humanity, killing everyone who resists or is of an impure class background. At no times have Communists, once they have gained mastery of a country, not taken to total expropriation of all private property and the indiscriminate murder of a large portion of the populace. Murder is contrary to the Natural Law, but to kill a Communist is to conform society more closely to the Natural Law, since an enemy of civil society is thus eliminated. (No, this arguement won't get you very far in certain "law" courts, but in the eyes of God, there is nothing wrong with killing a Communist.)
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Well done, you have proved not only that you are a bloodthirsty bigot, but also that you actually have no idea of basic communist theory.
Seriously, this really pisses me off. It seems most people who dislike communists don't actually understand what communism is. Even today I find myself having to give detailed explanations to reasonably smart people about why I have no problems with communists, because these people have such warped ideas of what communism is. I'm not a communist myself, but I certainly don't see why it is viewed as such a heinous menace to humanity.
Ah, yes, it's perfectly alright to kill anyone not designated a True Human Being. And where have we heard this before, boys and girls?
You quote "Natural Law" through half your post, and then suddenly switch to "God's Law." Natural Law states that the fittest will survive, so if that commie is bigger and stronger than you, then he will kill you , not the other way around.
Here are some terms you need to research so that you actually know what they mean:
"Natural Law." I know you are a fundie loop who thinks that Natural law and God's Law are the same thing, but they aren't. Arbitrarily redefining an established term just makes you look foolish outside of your cadre.
"Communism." You don't actually know what this is, do you? Jesus and the disciples lived in a communist fashion. You are confusing "communism" with "totalitarianism." Just because China and the Soviet Union claimed to be communist doesn't mean they actually were. They were (and in the case of China, still is) brutally repressive totalitarian elitist regimes. The United States has been far, far closer to being communist than either of those two nations ever were.
"Murder." Murder is the deliberate killing of another human being. God, in the OT, makes an exception to this for governments using the death penalty in certain cases. (This is the famous "eye for an eye" bit, and it makes sense in context. What else are you going to do with a child rapist or a murderer when you are wandering in the desert for 40 years? Tie them up and carry them?) Unless that communist has committed one of the offenses listed in the OT, and you happen to be a government official with the authority to do such things, then killing that communist would absolutely count as murder in God's eyes. You don't get to twist what the Bible says just because you want to justify your own actions. Stop making God act like you want to act.
He's right. Commandments 11 through 15, which as we know, were accidentally dropped by Moses and thus lost to iniquity, contained the exceptions to the first 10:
11 - If there is a big football game on TV, nevermind the Sabbath.
12 - It goes without saying that #5 does not apply to commies.
13 - If thou really really really want to bear false witness, thou may.
14 - Commandments 1 through 10 don't apply to clergy.
15 - If thou neighbor's wife is uber-haaaaaaaht, then covet away.
I really, really, really hate Communism. It's a disgusting system IMO (And I am familiar with what it really is; pointing to Stalinist Russia only serves to show a possible consequence of it, not it's intended end.)
But I hate you more.
It is easy to murder a communist.
there is no civilized law that tells anyone that it is right for any man, woman, or child, wether normal or not, to kill a communist.
As a communist I have no desire what so ever to expropriate or enslave anyone,
Yes at several times, when communists have gained power, we have not taken to total expropriation of all private property and the indiscriminate murder of a large portion of the populace.
Therefore your lie is refuted,
I hate communists, too, which means I hate illogical rhetoric that states that human rights can be removed because you don't agree with that person. Which means I hate you, Andrew Byler.
There is. See Matthew when Jesus says to the Zebedebs that he is not going to knock an entire village to the ground, blessed are the peacemakers, or the admonitions to Peter(whosoever lives by sword, dies by sword). Sorry, the Gospel is radical on that. Murder is killing a human being and communist, no matter how wrong they are, ARE HUMAN BEINGS. All the things you claim they do, were done before by many Christian regimes.
Besides, what do you call "natural law"?, if you mean natural, all commies are natural, man, they are flesh and bones. In fact, communists are a product of civilisation, so, WRONG, the natural law says don´t kill. Following your idiotic logic, I could kill you, saying that you DO enslave people. It´s not a joke.
Your theory would be perfectly rational, Andy, if no for the fact that communism has only been around in the form that we know of since the ninteenth century. If it's "natural law" to kill communists, does that mean that "nature" has only been around since the ninteenth century?
It's nice to know that even in this age, when Muslims, gays, and Wiccans are the usual scapegoats, Freepers will bring back Fifties' paranoia about Communists for old times' sake. Remember, you can never have too many people to hate!
What about Jean Léon Jaurès, the French social democrat,who had a fairly powerful position prior to his assassination? He advocated democracy and went to great lengths to prevent WW1. But oh yeah, I forgot, communists are all murdering, thieving bastards
Actually, 'Natural Law' tells us to live in Anarchy (as in the ideology, not "chaos"), which is the intended goal of Communism (it just haven't worked yet)
Wrong as Pinochet was in killing political dissidents, no-one can deny he had style.
(...but in the eyes of God, there is nothing wrong with killing a Communist.)
I guess not. Jesus was a commie, and look what happened to him.
... *gapes openly*
*backs away slowly*
Oh Andrew
Thomas Aquinas, not to mention Epictetus, Marcus Aurelius & Aristotle would like to have a word with you. The concept of Natural Law does NOT, EVER validate murder.
"But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also."
Matthew 5:39 (KJV)
"But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you."
Matthew 5:44 (KJV)
- So Andrew, tell your fellow freepers about how Jesus was wrong and you are right.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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