Plain and simple Jesus proves the existence of God! What more can be said.
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Except that there's not really any proof that he existed, other than the words of a few people a few thousand years ago, and there was more than one 'prophet' during that time that was said to have similar abilities. Why aren't you praying to them as well?
Plain and simple Jesus
The preschool version of Jesus?
The urbane and sophisticated Christ, i.e. the graduate from mortality, indicated that the "god" of the bible was the first entity ever to blaspheme the true God...by saying 'Thou shalt have no other god before me.'
While I have no problem with Jesus being an actual person, I would like proof that he did the things he did, i.e. rise from the dead, heal the sick etc.
P.S. No Bible references.
Very good, and who proves the existence of Jesus?, moreover, is the existence of Mao-Ze-Dong the proof of the existence of God, following your logic?, or Hitler's or George Bush's, or even Hugo Chavez's?
"Plain and simple Jesus proves the existence of God! What more can be said. "
Ummmm ALOT, start talking.
Plain and simple doesn't seem to mesh with parables. You know, those stories Jesus is attributed with telling? Even his personal groupies didn't understand what he meant by half of them.
That aside, even if you can show documented evidence outside of the bible that Jesus did what the bible claims he did, that doesn't mean that it proves god exists, just that Jesus accomplished what our science doesn't yet have an explanation for.
That is, of course, assuming it wasn't made up or highly exaggerated. Considering the bible is already full of hyperbole...
The idea that there was a historical Jesus who lived in the first century CE, came from Galilee, preached a message of reform in Judea, and was executed by a Roman procurator with a history of casual brutality is fairly trivial to assert, even if proof is lacking.
The idea that this man was the basis for the Biblical Jesus is also trivial, though it seems likely his story was commingled with other would-be Messiahs of his era.
The idea that this person was the Son of God is unfalsifiable, as is the idea that he was God incarnate, since both ideas rely first on the idea of defining God and defining that which is of God, and both are quite impossible.
Apparently it works like this:
Jesus proves that god exists.
the bible proves that jesus exists
the bible is true because god wrote it
Repeat
If Jesus in fact did exist,
AND
If certain things said about him in the Bible are true,
Then sure. But I might as well write "there is a God" on the back of a business card, for all that advances your argument.
And what proves the existence of Jesus? The Bible!
How do we know the Bible was right? It's the Word of God!
And round, and round, and round we go...
[EDIT] Ooops.
Remember that silly trichotomy they use, That either Jesus was lord, a liar, or a lunatic.
Therefore God is simple ? You said it, I didn't
It certainly explains the inconsistencies, contradictions, and general bullshit that's in said 'Word of God' then, if - as you've just admitted - your so-called 'God' is a herp-a-derp-derp moron with the IQ of a turnip.
Even "MLP:FiM"'s Derpy Hooves could come up with something infinitely better. And this pegasus is best pony (certainly the most adorable), next to Princess Luna.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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