Interestingly enough people always wonder if America is in bible prophecy.
Well the way i see it there are a few options that might come to pass soon.
1) America votes in alot of liberals right before prophecies start being fulfilled. This would put a wedge in anything we could do to stop the invasion of Isreal cause we'd sit on our hands under liberal control.
2) America loses this war in Iraq because of the left and becomes a non-factor on the world stage.
3) When the rapture happens the Christian base that generally supports the GOP and pushes them in elections will be gone, thus giving the liberals an even better chance. Could you imagine if Christian congressmen/congresswomen and senators raptured. The power vaccum that would occur. Open seats to be filled by democrats having them control U.S. and then nothing would get done except the killing of babies.
4) With GOP out of power we have the left who is weak on the war on terror to stop all progress. I could see some terrorist getting in and causing major damage that could cripple us. Then we would be a non-factor if even existing at all.
5) Kerry takes our guns and sells us to the Anti-Christ
These are just some ideas of what might happen soon. Every religion is looking for their messiah. The end of the age is near. Yes Matthew chapter 24 decribes our day. I can't wait for the true messiah The Lord Jesus Christ to rule and reign the entire world from Jerusalem for 1000 years. Then after the 1000 years he is recommissioned and rules and reigns forever and ever! Come quickly Lord Jesus!
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Look, Jesus! We even brought milk and cookies!
Basically all I saw was:
Fundie-spew, fundie-spew, ignorance, and fundie-spew.
Like Christian_Dad said, "These are just ideas of what might happen soon."
1) I'm pretty sure the Israeli army could take on just about any other country. For a place that small, they've got some inordinate military strength. Even then, they have allies other than the U.S.
2) We already have lost the "war". It was built on lies. The reason for the invasion kept shifting. What's amusing is that the Republicans then had the gall to accuse various Democrats of "flip-flopping" or "waffling". Because ... you know ... "We've never been 'stay the course'." Further, at best this is a wash regarding preventing terrorism.
3) GOP members of the House and Senate would get raptured? Ha. Given the demonstrations we've been seeing lately of the Republicans' sad lack of morals (Yes, Hastert, I'm looking at you!), I seriously doubt that.
4) Clinton did more during his two terms to try and stop bin Laden than Bush has yet. Further, our borders are unbelievably easy to cross. Further, with 300M people, I'd bet that at least one of them is a terrorist. Good luck finding him! Here are a few hints. He'll have legitimate papers and almost nothing to connect him to any other known terrorists. After all, the hijackers were rather like that, themselves.
5) Now this is just stupid. There's nothing to shoot down.
"Interestingly
I don’t think that word means what you think it means
enough people always wonder if America is in bible prophecy.
Let me check
.yes, I am a person, and I have never once wondered if America was in Bible prophecy, so your statement, being an absolute assertion, is incorrect.
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Well the way i see it there are a few options that might come to pass soon.
Oh, I can’t hardly wait!
1) America votes in alot of liberals right before prophecies start being fulfilled. This would put a wedge in anything we could do to stop the invasion of Isreal cause we'd sit on our hands under liberal control.
Historically speaking, Liberals have been easily as likely to engage in aggressive foreign policy in the face of military threat as Conservatives. Clinton intervening in Bosnia and Somalia, Kennedy and Johnson continuing the war in VietNam (ironically it was Nixon, a conservative, who presided over the US withdraw
), Truman dropping nuclear weapons on Japan, Roosevelt leading the US in WWII, Wilson bringing the US into WWI. Every single one of them a DEMOCRAT.
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2) America loses this war in Iraq because of the left and becomes a non-factor on the world stage.
Did we become a “non-factor” on the “world stage” when we fled Viet Nam with our tails between out legs? The role on the United States in the world community is not totally dependant on our “success” or “failure” in Iraq. The vast majority of the world already think we have failed miserably in Iraq. Hell, the majority of Americans think we have failed miserably in Iraq, hence the party switchover in Congress.
Reality 3, Christian_Dad 0
3) When the rapture happens
Good one! You were getting too serious there. Smart of you to break it up with a joke!
the Christian base that generally supports the GOP and pushes them in elections will be gone, thus giving the liberals an even better chance. Could you imagine if Christian congressmen/congresswomen and senators raptured. The power vaccum that would occur. Open seats to be filled by democrats having them control U.S. and then nothing would get done except the killing of babies.
Well, now you just sound stupid. If this fantasy “Rapture” occurs, and millions of people simply vanish, do you really think it will be business as usual? Do you really think everyone will just go, “Weird. Millions of people just vanished. Oh, well, we better hold a special election to find replacements for all those congressmen we can’t find. What? No Republicans left? Oh well, guess we have to vote Democrat
” Come on, you really think that? You can’t possibly be that stupid, after all, you figured out how to turn your computer on
Reality 4, Christian_Dad 0
And come on, no one seriously believes that the sum total of the Democratic agenda is to take control of Washington so they can get on with their obsessive task of killing babies. Bringing your anti-abortion rant into the point you are trying to make just weakens it by acknowledging that your true belief is that all Democrats are evil, and all Republicans are saints. Well, buddy, I hate to break your heart, but most of people involved in criminal, moral, and financial scandals in Washington now are Republicans
Reality 5, Christian_Dad 0
4) With GOP out of power we have the left who is weak on the war on terror to stop all progress.
This sentence actually makes no grammatical sense.
I could see some terrorist getting in and causing major damage that could cripple us. Then we would be a non-factor if even existing at all.
So you think that a single terrorist attack can destroy the US? That’s one hell of a big nuke. And even the Bush administration admits that there is very little that can be done to actually stop a determined suicide attacker. Our entire method of crime prevention and investigation is based on identifying behavioral trends in individuals and assumes that the individual in question is actually concerned with their own welfare.. By definition, a suicide bomber does not have a history of being a suicide bomber
And when someone wants to die in the commission of a criminal act, there goes the rest of prevention philosophy out the window.
Reality 6, Christian_Dad 0
5) Kerry takes our guns and sells us to the Anti-Christ
At first I thought you were making another joke
but I do believe you are serious. Which is sad because that makes you a complete dumbass. Kerry is a hunter. A combat veteran. He owns guns himself. Which means you, my friend, are talking out of your ass.
Reality 7, Christian_Dad 0
These are just some ideas of what might happen soon. Every religion is looking for their messiah. The end of the age is near. Yes Matthew chapter 24 decribes our day. I can't wait for the true messiah The Lord Jesus Christ to rule and reign the entire world from Jerusalem for 1000 years. Then after the 1000 years he is recommissioned and rules and reigns forever and ever! Come quickly Lord Jesus!"
So what, then. If Jesus has to reign for 1000 years here on earth, I guess you don’t get to see his triumphant ascension, do you? Besides, not one thing you just said in that paragraph is even remotely mentioned in or supported by scripture, you know. Unless, of course, you are stupid enough to think Revelations is an exact literal prediction of things to come and you didn’t realize that Left Behind is about as Biblically based as Mein Kamph is. (And if you think Revelations is literal, good luck finding those “seven hills” in Babylon
)
Final score: Rerality 8, Christian_Dad 0. I do believe we have a shut out.
Yes, if you manipulate a book, even a Chinese book,long enough, even the lone ranger can be in the list. Let´s make another argument.
America isn’t in the prophecy because they knew nothing of the other side of the world except that men would fall off of it. If you’ve found it in the bible you are massively reading into it.
1) Your god isn’t so powerful then.
2) Of course, bush starts the war but it will be the left/liberals/democrats/hippies/commies/’fag’ lovers/bleedinghearts/abortionists/Satanists/witches/paganists/etc that will lose’ a losing war.
3) Gotcha Pauly Paranoid. It would actually be a stupidity vacuum that would follow. If something as retarded as a rapture’ was to happen. You say babies are being killed all the time now, what’s the diff?
4) Because they did such a good job on September 11, right? And they’re patching up Iraq so beautifully by sending our men and women into battle with Humvee’s as well armoured as a Camry.
5) Kerry takes our guns and sells us to the Anti-Christ Right, that doesn’t sound crazy at all. The Anti-christ. Okaaaaaaay.
You are so at odds with reality that you genuinely hope the world will end. You’re like some bizarre, fundie version of a Bond villain. Let me say that again, you HOPE for the end of the world. The fact that you don’t recognize the words you say as insane is the scariest part of you. You actually think your line of thinking is a GOOD thing.
What's this "left is weak on war" stuff conservatives keep harping on? America's entry into World War I was done under Woodrow Wilson, a Democrat. World War II was entered under Roosevelt, a Democrat. The Korean War was started under Truman, a Democrat, and the Vietnam War also had its roots under Truman. It expanded into a full war after the Tonkin Resolution under Johnson, a Democrat. The NATO entry into the Kosovo conflict was done under Clinton, a Democrat. The only war of the 20th century entered by the GOP was the first Gulf war under Bush I.
I really hope there is a God and that one day, he would come down and say to these fundies, "You're all wrong." I'd love to see how they'd react. They'd probably deny He was God and never get into Heaven.
1) There's no such thing as prophecies. Israel is actually the one doing the invading.
2) Sure, right, the Iraq war is the Left's fault. Or did you mean the limousine liberals? Either way, how does a political force that has no power or control over a war lose it?
3)If you're a 'good christian' then why the FUCK would you care what happened to the US government after you were raptured? I thought the whole Rapture thing was that all you 'goody-goodies' get to go to heaven and all of us liberal baby-killer heathens stay on earth and suffer? And by all means, please, LEAVE I encourage your Rapture aspirations. Go and take every religious nut with you! By the way, the thought that Christian politicians are going to heaven is very funny. Thanks for that.
4) I had no idea that liberals were against progress. That's an interesting way of redefining things. Yes, the terrorist boogiemen are out to get you. BOO!
5) Why do they have such a hard-on for Kerry? Is it that he doesn't know how to fight politically and just makes things worse for himself? Do they like an easy piñata like Kerry? I guess so.
That end part is just wishful thinking. Funny as it might be.
Nedraed asked:
I'm still confused - every time I've read the Bible, the rapture is never mentioned. Where on earth are they getting that idea from?
It's from 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17:
"16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever."
Linking this weird little Judgement Day passage with the acid-trip known as Revelation didn't really happen until the 19th century, thanks mostly to John Darby. Darby postulated that the Rapture mentioned in 1 Thess. 4:17 would happen BEFORE the Tribulation mentioned in Rev. His reasoning was that the Tribulation would be really really mean and cruel and that God SURELY wouldn't be mean to his followers, really really.
Are you saying the apocalypse is coming soon? 'Cause if I'm not mistaken, something in the Bible says that only God the Father (not Jesus or the Holy Spirit or anything) knows when that is. So you claiming to know that it's happening soon is the same as saying you are God.
God, for Christmas, I want a shiny new bike.
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